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Nice coin!
It is type 1 Rupee and has 19 berries I think. Minted in either Bombay or Madras - I find the books very confusing as to which for this series.
There are several varieties but all broadly of the same value.
More detail here: https://en.numista.com/9718
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I can see the shape you have outlined, but the body of the rider seems to be incuse, which seems unusual?
I don't know of many Ancient coins with the thick border rim, not with a blank reverse.
No further forward I fear.
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I had a few looks, but I couldn't make much sense of this as a coin. The blank reverse is unusual and the detail on the obverse is difficult to make out.
I thought a button, but at 36g that sounds unlikely. Maybe a plaque or insert to a decoration that has then been in the ground for a long time?
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Ah sorry. I didn't scroll far enough up to see the origin of the discussion.
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I think when the message comes up like that it is because the lot has been withdrawn or cancelled by Ebay. If it had sold it would show in the sold listings.
I hope that is the case!
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Not my area, but I would agree. Leaving aside the details on the coin there are two other red flags: Brand new seller - this is his first sale; he has excluded the supposed grading details from the picture. Shows enough to make you think it has been officially graded but no company or registration info included.
I hope no one falls for it.
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Welcome to the forum @blake
I don't know about the rest of your coins, but that one is definitely a replica. Gold washed copper and sadly virtually worthless. Real gold does not tarnish, so that is the biggest giveaway even before we look at the low quality of the manufacture.
If you have others you are more confident of, please do post. Try to crop the pictures so we get the detail of the coin not acres of dull grey.
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Welcome back @seuk. I am sorry to hear about Gary, though I did not know him. He made a wise and altruistic decision in passing on his collection intact before he passed.
Is/was the website I linked to above yours or his? Is it likely that it will ever be resurrected? It was a wonderful and powerful addition to our knowledge of counterfeit coins.
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Wow! Well found!
If you are a member on that site, feel free to add a copy of my picture if you think it would be appreciated.
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What happened was that CP moved the Wanted and For Sale sections to the Members section and so most got reset as unread.
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Quite a few Counter-stamps are commercial. Many copper pennies were stamped with "Lloyds" and used as tokens for their paper. The Chinese used Chop marks to confirm authenticity or claim ownership.
Some were also governmental - indicating a re-valuation or the use in subsidiary or revolutionary organisations. Many early Caribbean coins are counter stamped versions of other country's money.
Engraving tends to be more personal, individual and so difficult to track down. When I first started collecting again in the early 2000s I picked up a cartwheel penny at an antiques shop, which, in the terms of the vendor, had been "Vandalised as someone's written all over the back" As a result it was cheap. The wording was something like "When this you see, think of me, J Bond 1827" - it was a transportation token created by or for someone about to be shipped to the colonies! I put it on Ebay, and it sold for a tidy sum, going to Australia. Sadly I no longer have a picture.
Here is a Brazilian 20 Reis counter stamped by the government to revalue as 40 Reis.
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I found this interesting and some lovely hammered coins pictured:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2yerrqel7o
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It maybe - I am not sure I would know how to find out.
The link I have is this: http://www.steppeulvene.com/index.george_iii.html
Based on the similarities I suspect this may have been @seuk's site.
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There was a website for these, which I have bookmarked, but when I tried to visit it just now I think it has been deleted.
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With the Sri Lankan coins, bear in mind that very similar designs were used on their coins for several generations of rulers. They can be distinguished by the real experts, but that is beyond me! If you want to be precise, I suggest you join Zeno and post good quality pictures there. You will usually get chapter and verse back within a few hours. (Do read the requirements for posting - they have strict guidelines.)
Here is one I had years ago but sold to a collector in Thailand:
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For the Asian coins I recommend this website: https://www.zeno.ru/index.php - far and away the most extensive resource on Asian coins.
For example, I think the ones I suggested as Sri Lankan are similar to this: https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=371736&cat=3449&ppuser=&sortby=d&way=desc
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Welcome to the forum @sambevan77
An interesting selection, but as you say nothing I think of startling value. It would take a long time and a lot of effort to fully ID all of those.
A few shots:
Row 1 - first is Roman, second looks to be "Hollandia" - ie Netherlands 18thc, third might be an Indian temple token, fourth and fifth I think are Ancient Sri Lankan, sixth looks byzantine, seventh no idea.
Row 2 - first may be another byzantine, 2nd, 3rd, 4th look to be Indian , 5th maybe French, 6th, 7th and 8th Roman.
Row 3 - 1st, 3rd and 4th look South American, 2nd might be the most valuable as it maybe an Indian gold Fanam, 5th and 9th no idea, 6th, 7th and 8th Indian or Middle Eastern.
I hope that helps. You will have to do much more research in your own time, but hopefully those thoughts will get you into the right areas.
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I admire all your work and dedication to this subject. I would love to make a more positive contribution, but unfortunately I have little detailed knowledge on these matters, and do not find them interesting enough to invest the time to learn more about the topic.
Please don't be put off - I am sure others must be much more interested than me!
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A nice selection! What dates on the Charles II and William III?
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I was fortunate enough to pick up mine before the prices went completely crazy:
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I had a very similar experience in about 2018. I spent best part of £1k on a huge collection of 50p, £1s and £2s with multiple duplicates. The scarcer pieces sold fairly easily - one Kew Gardens and a handful of Jemima Puddleducks, some of the £2 coins. The rest became a millstone around my neck and I ended up taking the bulk of them to the Post Office in 2023 at face value. Hence my advice above.
Unknown One Penny
in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
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Generally referred to as "Toy Money". Produced in the late 19th century for play and education purposes.