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https://www.ebay.it/itm/SCOZIA-2-MERKS-1673-CARLO-II-BB-RR/121585969051? Looks good until you view the large photograph - all the obverse detail is engraved on !

The one on the left is definitely an excellent read - I bought it around ten years ago...the section about the Soho mint's involvement in the Russian coinage is particularly fascinating.

A new acquisition for the unofficial farthing collection...despite the rather fancy style, Seaber is presumed to have been a total failure in business (or to have died shortly after opening up shop) because his establishment didn't last long enough to be recorded in any directory etc. The tokens are therefore pretty rare !

No, it's the circulation strike 1861/1 6 + G I posted originally - go back a page or two in the discussion. EF to AU coin. That said, if you want a 19th century British proof under £200, look for George III farthings, they come up at that price level occasionally.

Yes, I got just under £200 for it which was rather pleasing - I guess roughly full catalog price for a EF+/AU coin; Mark Rasmussen & co. rate the regular 1861 6 + G at £75/£275 in EF/BU in the 2020 price guide. There do seem to be a lot of these 1861/1 dies, which does suggest to me that the variety can't be terribly scarce. But then in nice grade with lustre, not necessarily so easy to find.

The service tomorrow is unsurprisingly cancelled for obvious reasons. But does any member here know whether there will be a distribution of coin ? I assume the coins have already been minted so distribution (by post ?) would seem sensible.

If "186" was a matrix, how were the 8/6 dies prepared ? Surely some of the dies must have been prepared with individual numeral punches ? You could explain the 1861 with first 1/1 in the matrix case if whoever was preparing the dies forgot it was in mirror image I suppose, although it seems unlikely; alternatively if the matrix was stamped in angles or was itself ill prepared.

Interesting. Doesn't really surprise me given how early on this was in the coinage, they would have been pressed to avoid scrapping dies unless absolutely necessary, hence the 8/6, 6/8 etc. as well as these more minor overdates. Do you know if these double entered numeral pieces are worth much of a premium over regular 1861 pieces ? I'm not after another 6/G coin so probably will resell.

Photos of the rest of the coin (sold as a 5/D, looks clearly a 6/G to me). Reverse ghosting so obviously not a proof, weight 9.30 g.

Returning to the thread's topic... Are there currency 1861 pennies known with the 1 of the date low and over a higher 1, using the same die as Freeman 36 ? This would appear to be an example:

I hope this is a joke ! Bleach reacts with base metal... Coronavirus isn't going to last on copper or silver coins more than a few hours, maybe a day or two for cupronickel. Given how slow the post is right now, the risk is basically nil.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223962727538 The classic fake + junk bulk lot scam, rare to see it this blatant though. At least the fake coin is described as a restrike in the description, but the bids the seller's getting on some of these lots are ridiculous.

I reckon the longer this goes on for, people who are still earning their full salary will purchase more out of sheer boredom. Living in London, my spending on non-necessities has almost gone to zero which has freed up more money for coin purchases if I was so minded, although I haven't seen anything I really want for my collection recently in auction.

£50 would seem pretty fair overall in my opinion. The 1889 crown is reasonably nice, would cost you at least £20 if not more to buy elsewhere....the rest is worth little more than scrap, most of the individual bronze coins would not be worth the effort to sell individually. The Chesterfield token...well, it's rare, but it's a niche item. If I owned it and wanted to sell it, I'd probably put it on eBay at £50 or £60, and expect it not for sell for at least a few months, if not longer, unless I was willing to take half or a third of my initial offering price. There are only a few specialist dealers who would see any value in it and the collectors for this sort of thing are few and far between. So I'd value it very conservatively, although it is a rare opportunity to pick one up - if you like it, go for it.

Plausible theory. It's probably of Scottish origin given that it shares the obverse die of Mr. Wylie's Classes (V27) ? Don't know of any English token with this obverse die.

Very nice ! I find this series fascinating, with regards to the widely accepted theory that there was no "Bishop's Wine Cellar" and that these were fantasies of 19th century pub checks. Is the "2" in "Bottle 2/11" overpunched ?

It's a very rare fibre token from the early 20th century, the only other example I've ever seen was in Ernest Danson's collection (DNW 18 March 2015, lot 639 part). My understanding is that the "Kit Bag Club" was a WWI veteran's association, although I may be mistaken on this point. Easily worth £20 - 30, if not more.

Still looking for this if anyone's got one or seen one for sale !

Anyone recognize this cursive script ? The price of 3 shillings appears to have been added later. Would appear to be a late 19th century or early 20th century hand. Not Cokayne or Batty.

Hmm, I just haven't seen any 1675's which look like this. If the last numeral is a 5 the bottom of the loop is touching the upright; there aren't any in the Colin Cooke collection which have this feature.

I know this was reported by Batty (unreliable source if there ever was one), but it's not in Peck. What do people think of this piece ? Date doesn't look like anything else ! Probably a contemporary forgery ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Four-Generations-Of-The-Remington-Typewriter/202945869303 Nothing wrong with the medal but the title made me laugh.

It most probably is genuine, I would agree. Having said that, if you'd really like to be sure, David Sear himself is willing to authenticate ancient coins; money is not wasted as the certification does make pieces more saleable, and he may pick up interesting features than non-experts would miss. https://www.davidrsear.com/certification.html As for the clipping, if it's ancient that's OK and it doesn't reduce value too much. The problem is that a lot of these coins were mounted in jewelry, from the time when they were made to the 20th century. When removing a coin from jewelry, it's often more salable if there's no trace of mounting at all, so someone unscrupulous might remove a little bit of the edge of the coin to achieve that. In any case you bought it at auction so there was at least one other person out there who thought it was worth roughly what you paid for it !

Yes, you can actually see the C too on the flan, on second looks, so it is definitely a York coin. Probably Edward IV second reign then, with London dies ? I've had the York die piece before and it looks nothing like these, crude almost Irish style portrait.

Do you think the portrait style is compatible with that ? There are York issues of Edward IV with cross in central quatrefoil; it would have to be Archbishop Neville suspended (1472 - 5) presumably given lack of marks by neck. I'd be skeptical of an Irish attribution simply because I've never seen an Irish penny of Edward IV which isn't heavily clipped !