Gollum

Why not the loft, I thought that would be quite a good place !. Not safe from burglars of course, but if it's DRY (it doesn't matter about the temperature) it could be a good storage place. I am llucky, I have an old house that has a cut roof and has lots of storage space, it is also dry . I currently have all my tools in it and my ( NO LAUGHING ) sewing machines there, as well as my 3 servers for the other computers in the house.

Why not the loft, I thought that would be quite a good place !.

What you do with them really does depend on how much verdigris. Tiny spots can be removed mechanically but from my point of view a coin encrusted with the stuff just isn't worth the candle. Thank you Red, their mostly just paper weights then. Its quite bad on most of them. I suppose in this instance I would not be slapped around the forum for cleaning them or such with Brasso to see whats under it...

Ski, if you go to the links I placed on one of these forums ( don't ask me I forget which one it was ! ) it will take you to the american online library I think it is, they have a LOT of older books in many formats that wil fit on the kindle, my problem is..... No kindle as yet, but it wont be long I hope. The wife has one I got her but refuses to share, how mean.

I don't really Know Debbie, like you I am a begginer, but I guess the word Silver proof would mean it had to be, then again I have seen the word silver to mean "silver appearance" as well. I did like the big silver coin the Aussies made recentley, I think it was a 10 kilo coin or such. That would go very nicely in my meagre collection. You all have 363 days till xmas to save up and get me it ! .

Ok, so I watched a lot of youtube videos this week, more so xmas day as you were all relaxing and I was searching and learning. One thing I noticed included the fact that all those videos of professional dealers and collectors were handling coins without gloves on !, not very professional after all. Watching videos of mints making coins and blanks I saw them putting them into big drums of steel balls etc and chmical baths to make them shine!, I thought that was a no no to wash coins etc. So it leaves me a little confused. Ahh the dark side of youtube, why do I always end up there.

I like Kindles, you can digitize all your coin books and throw them onto it, handy for that "on the run " reference kind of thing.

I found this one interesting

I didn't get my Gouby book, I got one called the illustrated encyclopedia of stamps and coins. I think my son wanted me to let him have it as he collects stamps now..... sneaky kids.

Sorry guys but I have lost tthe edit facility so am having to post numerous times !. From what I am reading it is rather erm collectable and may be worth a few shekels !.Then again I am only a begginer. http://dniewcollectors.blogspot.com/2011/11/singapore-tokens.html

Looks like a singapore copper cock token to me. See this page. http://dniewcollectors.blogspot.com/2011/10/cock-tokens.html

HAXall. May not be relevant but I found this article that has the reverse of your coin to it. http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?IDArticle=2387&Coingage-of-Sarawak

Scottish coinage, this one will throw up a number so take your pick as above, the others are direct links and will download to you as pdf files. http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=The%20Coinage%20of%20Scotland%20AND%20mediatype%3Atexts Handbook of the coins of Great Britain and Ireland in the British Museum (1899) http://www.archive.org/download/handbookofcoinso00brituoft/handbookofcoinso00brituoft.pdf The provincial token-coinage of the 18th century (1915) http://www.archive.org/download/provincialtokenc00daltuoft/provincialtokenc00daltuoft.pdf The silver token-coinage mainly issued between 1811 and 1812 (1922) http://www.archive.org/download/silvertokencoina00daltiala/silvertokencoina00daltiala.pdf

I'm sorry guys but I know nothig of this subject, but I want to ask a question, I noticed whilst reading some articles on American sites about coins that the U.S gov't claim were not officially released to circulation being declared as belonging to the government and removed from the owner or finder. If this coin ( or others like it )where, how to put it !, erm, reclaimed by the gov't back then for recoinage, would that make the UK mint or govt the legal owners and could we have a situation soon where our own mint or gov't could do the same as the American one by taking it back legally. Just asking. Sorry to have broken into this one.

It's my wedding anniversary tomorrow, I asked for a book by Mr Gouby, wonder if it will come.

I can't remember where I read it as I have been reading so many forum members web sites and books of late, but somewhere I read that if the fun goes out of collecting and it becomes more of a finance thing or for a coins value then its time to give up. Something like that anyway, I got my 2 coins from Chris our landlord today, and as i opened the packet I was thrilled, I had 2 coins that were the best I own, and then my mind turned to the thought... If everyone else considered that low grade poor as scrap and did just that, then one day my poor scrap coin would be the only one left, and as poor as it is, it is going to be worth a fortune. Shiny things make me happy, I am Gollum, I want as many coins as I can get, even if you think they are junk, too me they are history, they are saying something, even if i do not quite know what.

Now that all you Pro collectors have informed us beginners that you have all collected the good coins and catalogued them, and told me that my dreams of a 1933 penny is pointless, I suppose I may as well give up now , seriously if they are a finite number and all whereabouts known what joy does it leave us. My only hope of undiscovered coins is looking more and more like getting my laser B1 detector out of mothballs and running up and down the field next to me in the hope of finding something none of you have..... . Are we relegated to waiting for one you poor beggars to kick the bucket before your collection becomes remotely available to us so we can say "gotcha".

Thank you Debbie,at present the infection seems to be in decline, a bit like my hair, the pain is still there but not so bad and the infection now feels like a gnawing niggling kind of thing as if the tooth has something under it trying to push it out but not as bad as yesterday. I had one once before that I took a dental pick too and burst in desperation, tasted foul but the relief was immediate. Hopefully it will be even better by tomorrow. Regards Garry

Thanks Peckris, none of them are of any real value except maybe the 1860/1 one I have, their mainly just to say I have them and for comparison kind of thing. Garry

excuse my comment on the vinnie black shadow as a shadowmaker, I was also thinking of the Kwack 750 widowmaker at the same time !.

BSA and Triumpsh, with Aj's, remember them silent police velocettes !..... a mans heart can melt very easily !!. I had a suzuki GT250 two stroke, and liked it strangely, then a kawasaki Z400 twin and few other bikes, you had to bring up bikes Peter, now the mind wanders to better days. Good looking daughters, spotty kids with copper... Pimp daddy, shame on you Peter, you could of at least asked around your forum friends first I think I am going to collect everything in general and as I said before threepences and sixpences most.Oh and the odd 1933 penny now and again just to make it interesting, you have to have a dream don't you. If you know everything else is attainable it must be boring to a degree, it is the seemingly unnattainable that makes the hunt pulse racing. If you have a line to god or santa, ask him to leave me an A7SS or A10 in my garage. Better still an old series c or d vinnie shadow maker please.

I'm on 500mg ab and I have both paracetomol and ibuprofen here as well as 30mg codeine phosphate which I refuse to take, they make me feel sick all the time and sleepy. Hospital and dentist refuse to remove it with an infction in place. I had the nerves drilled out after the last infection, but the dentist will not remove it because it is a lower jaw tooth and they send you to the hospital to have that done here.

Every year without fail something comes along and messes it up, last two years it has been massive chest infections. This year it is a lower infected wisdom tooth that was drilled and filled in January awaiting removal by a hospital that never bothered !. Pain is not the word for this. It is doing my head in and has me on a very short fuse with no sleep for the last two days, every time I lay down it seems to hurt more, doc put me on amoxicillin today so maybe it will do something about it..

Especially for A UNC/UNC coins to fit into. If the rest are mid/low grade they will have lost a fraction from the diameter. Peck is quite correct, the only really accurate test is a digtal caliper set which you can pick up for peanuts on ebay/tinternet. tinternet, is that an auction place special for tinted coinage ?