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I mean evidence of your FINANCIAL loss, not loss of the item itself! Namely, your receipt for the purchase of your crown, which is hopefully less than you sold it for. I think you may find that this is the amount you can claim, not the £10K someone was silly enough to pay for it! I would imagine in the £46 category they ask few questions, it wouldn't be commercially viable to follow up all the claims (probably a random sampling to meet the insurers criteria, possibly) but, in the £500+ bracket, they'll be checking I bet? If i insure for 1300 quid, thats what i'd expect to recover. Evidence is evident where it was sold, not where bought from. That's fair enough, I'm of the same thinking...but have you ever got from your car insurer what you insured it for? Don't they put all kinds of smallprint into their documents to avoid payment where you believed there was cover? We probably have half a dozen policies and insurances of every which kind, which we believe are protecting us in some way or other, endowment policies, loan protection, pensions, etc. It's payout that counts, and few deliver!

I mean evidence of your FINANCIAL loss, not loss of the item itself! Namely, your receipt for the purchase of your crown, which is hopefully less than you sold it for. I think you may find that this is the amount you can claim, not the £10K someone was silly enough to pay for it! I would imagine in the £46 category they ask few questions, it wouldn't be commercially viable to follow up all the claims (probably a random sampling to meet the insurers criteria, possibly) but, in the £500+ bracket, they'll be checking I bet?

I think you'll find you still have to provide evidence of your loss, whether you paid £13 or not, but don't quote me, it's been a while since I looked. The whole system would be open to endless fiddles otherwise.

Not sure! Another thing worth bearing in mind is, the post office doesn't reimburse what the coin 'actually' sells for. In the small print somewhere I read (a long time ago now - could be worth going back into it) that they, in effect, only refund the financial loss to the sender, which you'd have to provide proof of. So, in affect, that Gothic Crown that you bought for £42.75 and sold for £2k...if they lose it, guess what, you get £42.75! So, unless she is selling at a loss, she would've been covered at £46 easily!

I've bought a few good bargains from this seller (probably from errors like this one), until I had a disagreement about postage! I bought two coins separately, about £20-30 each (Recorded postage charge on each)and, when I came to pay...Special Delivery charges for combining! I said, then please post them separately at Recorded Delivery, that would be much cheaper for me! I couldn't make them understand that I should BENEFIT from buying lots of coins from them, not be penalised, grrrrr! They did get sent SD, I didn't pay SD though! A shame for them, because a fair number of their coins would have burnt and died in the past, but for my enthusiasms (?spelling)! That's what you have to remember when you upset an ebay buyer, they could be making you money, even when they lose! I've used that seller.Never had a problem.If you didn't pay SD why get upset? I used that seller a lot so, in part, that was the issue! I could understand how the charge seemed logical for them initially but, in the context of my repeat custom, and email suggesting that it would be MORE logical for me if the items were posted separately (as I bought them separately, in the knowledge I'd be paying RD), in light of their desire to levy me 'additional' charges to combine! I'm sure if anyone bought a book from amazon, thinking the postage costs were fair, and then later went on to buy a second book, only to find they will now be paying nearly double postage on BOTH books, simply because they now weigh over a kilo when combined! Even if you argued the point and rightly only ended up paying the original charge per individual book, you'd still feel more than a little grumpy with the company principle, particularly if you'd spent a lot of money with them over the last couple of years! So, not upset, really, just irked by the tick-off on the invoice, and their general philosophy on the matter! The problem with the postage charge is, if a coin is over 46 quid, or you have bought 2 coins going over that price ebay and PP urge sellers to insure anything over that amount, its there to protect the sellers from ongoing fraudlent claims. I had 1 guy last week ask where his coin was, it turns out i had uploaded the wrong track number for the coin but still had the correct receipt for his coin, i checked it online and he had signed for it 4 days previously. I wrote back to him and said that it was my fault, i'd uploaded the wrong number and gave him the correct one and asked him why he tried to rip me off as it had been signed for 4 days previously, needles to say i never heard from him again and he's now been added to the arsehole list I know what you mean, but one coin was £24 the other £48, postage £1.75 on each, fair enough! I'm just saying send them to me separately if you don't trust either me or the postal system (bearing in mind I've probably spent £1000's with this seller over the years), not bill me £6.35 for the privilege of saving them the cost of extra packaging and the effort of packing my coins separately! I've definitely been the underbidder on probably a couple of hundred+ of their coins (worth quite a few thousand to them)! Ahh, well...their loss, for slapping my wrist on their invoice, and being bothered about a bit of post!

I've bought a few good bargains from this seller (probably from errors like this one), until I had a disagreement about postage! I bought two coins separately, about £20-30 each (Recorded postage charge on each)and, when I came to pay...Special Delivery charges for combining! I said, then please post them separately at Recorded Delivery, that would be much cheaper for me! I couldn't make them understand that I should BENEFIT from buying lots of coins from them, not be penalised, grrrrr! They did get sent SD, I didn't pay SD though! A shame for them, because a fair number of their coins would have burnt and died in the past, but for my enthusiasms (?spelling)! That's what you have to remember when you upset an ebay buyer, they could be making you money, even when they lose! I've used that seller.Never had a problem.If you didn't pay SD why get upset? I used that seller a lot so, in part, that was the issue! I could understand how the charge seemed logical for them initially but, in the context of my repeat custom, and email suggesting that it would be MORE logical for me if the items were posted separately (as I bought them separately, in the knowledge I'd be paying RD), in light of their desire to levy me 'additional' charges to combine! I'm sure if anyone bought a book from amazon, thinking the postage costs were fair, and then later went on to buy a second book, only to find they will now be paying nearly double postage on BOTH books, simply because they now weigh over a kilo when combined! Even if you argued the point and rightly only ended up paying the original charge per individual book, you'd still feel more than a little grumpy with the company principle, particularly if you'd spent a lot of money with them over the last couple of years! So, not upset, really, just irked by the tick-off on the invoice, and their general philosophy on the matter!

If you had time, and a few high-grade examples to hand, it would be interesting to look at the range of busts which are classified as Reverse 6. Here's some of the differences I've picked up in the past, with the help of a others on this forum: Different orientation of neckline rose More curved/straight line to rear of neck Berry in front/behind leaf of wreath Additional detail to hair in from of bun Double edge and extension to ear Larger gap between B of BRITT and hair Sharper nose Slight double chin These could be retouches to the die, of course. The following examples are from 1863 (on the left) and 1861 Presumably you mean Obverse 6 not Reverse 6? On those two examples, you missed one of the most obvious differences IMO - the obverse on the left has a bulging eye which the one on the right doesn't have. Also there's a difference in size and thickness of legend. Nevertheless, an impressive list of differences for what is supposed to be the same Obverse. I can barely believe that's even meant to be the same obverse bust! Another one is bottom lip curled outwards! Have you tried transparency, making each image semi-transparent and then overlaying them? It may look too messy, not sure, worth a try though!

I'm thinking probably not! Any ideas on the 'irregularity' running from the harp and through the central crossbar? Well, any raised areas on the coin will be down to marks on the die, so maybe a dint or damage there? Eventually dies were hammered so much that they would crack, you can occasionlly see at least the start of that on coins. I'm thinking in this case, something was dropped on the die causing a cut. Interestingly your coin is from a different die from other coins I've seen with contraction marks used instead of stops on the reverse. I had assumed there would be only one, but apparently not .. curious. I really haven't read enough C1 literature to competently comment. I have to confess though I'm really surprised to hear the thoughts were just for a single reverse die for contraction marks! Now I'm curious, too! Does Bull cover shillings too, or am I just looking at Morrieson for the next level read?

I've bought a few good bargains from this seller (probably from errors like this one), until I had a disagreement about postage! I bought two coins separately, about £20-30 each (Recorded postage charge on each)and, when I came to pay...Special Delivery charges for combining! I said, then please post them separately at Recorded Delivery, that would be much cheaper for me! I couldn't make them understand that I should BENEFIT from buying lots of coins from them, not be penalised, grrrrr! They did get sent SD, I didn't pay SD though! A shame for them, because a fair number of their coins would have burnt and died in the past, but for my enthusiasms (?spelling)! That's what you have to remember when you upset an ebay buyer, they could be making you money, even when they lose!

I'm thinking probably not! Any ideas on the 'irregularity' running from the harp and through the central crossbar?

And I just can't make a decision about whether I actually like the colouration on this one or not?

I couldn't resist! Weak strike, but I really like the 'feel' of this one!

You'll never guess what I found in a hammered lot after buying it? Exactly the same, but even better grade (sharper)! I left it with W&W, for their 'coin man' to look at, as I only spotted it after winning the lot! Not sure how I stand with fakes in lots, we'll see? I'm not entirely unhappy, as I bought the lot for a superb Elizabeth threefarthings that wasn't highlighted, despite being the best coin in there! Neither was the amazing Edward penny with lustre (pics later)

They're good on here, aren't they!

They're good on here, aren't they!

Boats and the dreams of self-sufficiency, or at least a system of simple trading? You have a great time, Peter! Many happy return to Mrs P, best wishes to you both! I'm half p****d in a pub in Warwick, waiting for my better half to pick me up! Christ, it's rained a lot, but I'm pleased with Warwick!

The magic of macro! I stand down from the large 4, small 4 speculation! One for the denticle boys now I think! It is undoubtably high though, even if the left component is contestable!

It's all about being a completist. As soon as a variety is found, everyone has a gap in their collection to be filled. As Peck says, they're not that rare (VR Court estimates 6:1 in favour of the more common variety) so can be picked up by the eagle-eyed at a very reasonable price. There's always a good feeling from paying standard money for a rarer variety. I guess a lot of the overdates and die-repairs of modern milled can boil down to little more than a few microns on occasions, even blocked dies count, if the run's long enough! It always comes down to how common or not they are, and how many accumulators there are out there with big black circles in the middle of their very fine cabinets who want one!

Another new variety... Go pies!

Good on yer, Pies! Fair play!

You'll be in a minority of one then!

It doesn't. It's a sixpence. I love this forum! I remember innocently entering around a year ago now, just after the debate about whether you could legally smelt English coinage had finally wound down! Without knowing about the fire of the recent bullion debate, I entered enquiring into 'the smelting of English silver'! I always think of you Nick! fondly, of course!

Yes. The lots of coins I purchase are mostly low grade coins. Being a variety seeker, this does not bother me. Thus, I make sure that differences are not caused by post mint damages and significant enough to be keeped. When I can not find information on it on the web, I post it. The pictures that I post can be used so others can come up with their own conclusion. The sample I have for 1940 is 30 coins so I do not think this is rare unless I am very lucky. Hope someone else finds one ... happy hunting. 1 in 30 is quite a small number, especially if none were found in the next 30! Stick around, I think your findings would be the focus of some good debate!

I guess that would depend on the comparative rarity of the one 1940 against the other! I think the modern micro-collector is a growing animal, and books like David's can only fuel the fire! For example, if you HAD one, and I didn't...well, you could still keep it anyways!