Rob

And the Eadgar was from the March 1997 Sovereign list

Right, you've got out of jail. The Cnut was probably sold as part of their offer in Sept 1996 as seen in the Sovereign FPL

In that case I would say they are likely to be genuine as they dealt in rare and high value items on their monthly list. Bob Ilsley was the person's name. They now have a shop in Leighton Buzzard(?) but seem to mostly deal in modern stuff these days.

Rob's got no time at the moment. I'm not sure they are ok, but wouldn't commit to that. The weights are ok as is the general style, but I'd prefer to find matching dies without identical fine detail. The Eadgar has a pellet in the legend after EA and the rev. inner circle looks a bit too perfect in places. What's going on with the final O of MO? Cnut's nose and the lis on the crown look a bit bulky and the quatrefoil style on the reverse is markedly different to other examples of this type by this moneyer that I have found in a cursory check. e.g. Lloyd has one on his site at the moment where the quatrefoil is much more open.

This one?

It looks ok, if a bit abused. Why do you suspect it isn't genuine?

Do you mean Lakeland Coin Auctions? Based on a covesation I had a Corbitts 3 years ago, they gave up about 5 or 6 years ago as it was impossible to get sufficient material and hence generate enough interest. The other one that John did cataloguing for is PFK at Penrith.

Both types use the gothic bust, but I use the two separately to differentiate the types. It doesn't matter what they are called as long as the other person understands - or is that a bit too concilliatory?

Oh Dear me. My mate does a good line in lives. Three for a tenner if anyone wants them. Why does it matter?! Godless is the 1849, no questions asked. Gothic to me would be the ones with gothic script, but I'm not going to throw the toys out the pram if someone disagrees.

Mmmmmmmmm.

You've seen it before, but here's a gVF type 2.

Nor did anyone else. That's why it was unsold. They were all overgraded.

Virtually all the York coins were struck in the period 28th January 1642/3 to 28th January 1643/4. The type 3 halfcrowns were later than the type 2s based on the wear to the horse punch which was the same for both types. The Briot style shilling dies were later still according to the wear seen on the punches. We know that the Pocklington Hoard contained a few dozen type 3s which were fresh as from the mint when found. The most likely reason for their concealment would have been the breaking of the Hull siege by Parliamentary troops on the 11th October 1643 and their subsequent advance to around Stamford Bridge, thus threatening York, at which point the Royalists retired to the city for the winter and left on the 28th January 1643/4 to head north and confront the Scots Covenenters who were advancing on Newcastle. Whilst it doesn't confirm these months as the time they were struck, it is likely that more silver would have been available during the summer when they were enjoying success on the battlefield than the following winter when contemporary diaries record that there was little coining taking place due to lack of silver. Once the Northern Army left in the January, troop numbers in York dropped from about 10,000 to 8 or 900 which also demanded less coin. The cavalry left for the north while the remaining troops were foot soldiers, suggesting the shilling was a more practical denomination at this point in time. A cavalryman earned 2/6d per day, the foot soldier a shilling - when the got paid which wasn't often.

Struck most likely between August 1643 and the 28th January 1643/4, with August or September the favourites.

The testoon was the anglicised version of the Italian testone. A quick wiki check suggests the testone ceased to be struck in the1550s. The nordic skilling wasn't introduced until 1625, so looks to have been adopted from the English terminology. The scilling was an ancient accounting term, just as the merk was, and is likely to be the origin of the value's useage. As for the changeover in terminology, mint records covering the commission to John Bowes at Durham House of 29th Jan 1548/9 refer to the shilling and half-shilling, and the conversion of testoons (i.e. the debased HenryVIII issues). It seems likely that the change was initially aimed at distinguishing between the old and new coins. Subsequently, there is reference to shillings of varying fineness, so the use of testoon was restricted to the issues they were trying to call in and melt down, and is referred to as such when the maximimum levy for exchanging the old money was set at 2d in every 20s.

Fashion, I suspect

More pennies. Received in change.

When you get to 100,you get sent to Broadlands courtesy of the Queen? Or should that be Broadmoor? NURSE!!

French 1793 2 sols, but I've no idea what mint as it is flat at that point.

Wow, what a revamp! 1368 in my 2013 copy is 25 65!That's because they split them out. The majority are 5b2 where the price hasn't moved. 5b1 is the rare one, but presumably this kept the 1368 designation as 5b1 comes before 5b2. Another case of it helps to know what you are looking for. anyone working with an old book and minimal knowledge would refrain from spending £100 on a 5b1 because the book only says Vb

1368 is 135, 450

1500p is closer. 25 fine, 65 VF

Almost. S1368A. The crown has pellet ends, not fleurs

I make it a 5b2, DAVI ON LVNDE. Interesting that the N diagonal has its own diagonal. I see the odd example on the last page of North, but not a huge number. X is normal

Any letter is only going to be as sharply cut as the quality of the punch. A worn letter punch would have former right angles rounded off, I would have thought, so maybe we are talking older and newer punches. The E looks more rounded than the C.