Sylvester

Well you havethe coin in hand so you can see things i can't make out properly... I don't have any pictures of those classes either... Did i mention Seaby wasn't much good for hammered coinage? (Or Spinks if you prefer!) Doesn't matter they are both the same... Opposite of a reversed n is a normal n!

You know i reckon it could be Edward I... EDW R ANG DNS HYB I think Classes 15b and c are EDWA R, not EDW R... Hmmm (only just spotted that).

I though for a minute it was S.1526 (which would have made you very happy), but yours has Roman N's... If it's Edward III (which i have my doubts now, see below) then i think it's from the third coinage... probably S.1545 or S.1546 So the cross probably is the one you said but not very well defined, probably from a later die striking hence why it's joined up looking more like cross 1, than the patee ones you thought. I've looked at the class 'C' coins that have the Cross 1, Closed E, wedgetail R, and Roman N's pretty much like yours but they look more like the groats than they do your penny. See... S.1584. I do believe however that it might not be Edward III at all, it's probably class 15b or c of Edward II. Which would explain why class 15d was so close... the only difference between classes b-c and d (other than the price tag) is the N's. See what you think. I'm gonna have a look through Edward I later... (if in doubt say what i always say... Cl 4d)

I did one with a florin but it looks naff... the reason being is i forgot to lighten the florin up... blued it yes, lightened it nooo.

Obviously if you want to keep the same kind of style then you just have to change the picture and the colours... Does the single colour idea work though? It looks better without the writing over Vicky's face... I'm tempted to try an orange/red one. What do you think about having the last two digits of the date in a different colour? Or would you rather prefer it all in one? And more importantly what does Chris think since the decision is his at the end of the day... i could do with some guidance. Anyone got a picture of a high grade lustrous Edward VII florin i could borrow? I've got a low grade one i might give it a try. I think the Edward one would look better with the blue... sea and all.

Yeah i thought the same about the text... i'm not sure about bringing the colours colser together though, i don't want them blending in...

Well i'm currently upto my eyes in pci thread posting, but later this afternoon i'll look it up for you.

I did have them in orange (Oli and my idea of orange and blue), but it looked naff. It's clearer in the bitmap original image, but even then I wonder if white would be better? Lemme give it a try.

i fancied doing one exactly the same but in purple or green... Two-tone red would be much less impressive... The orange tinge on the florin contrasts with the blue, simple two tone blue keeps that modern look. Also the loss of the band at the bottom makes it look more modern. Amazing how it can look modernish and yet have a (very unmodern) gothic on the front.

So we didn't like the orange brown one, but what about this one? How about now?

If it's got a mintmark then it must be one of the later Edwards... i didn't think Edward's I & II had mintmarks...

i agree i always though the monarch thing was pointless too...

Are you thinking what i'm thinking Chris... hmm 1967 halfpennies? Oww 1965 Churchies?

See the previous post now... I like blue and gold together... i like dark green with bright light green and a bit of red... can look classy if done right, can look totally naff if not. I'm a sucker for dark colours though... i like dark greens. The thing is to catch people's attention on book shelves you need contrasting colours (they usually don't go together, but if they did you wouldn't see the book, it blend in). Black and light blue go well. So does black and pink. Mind you black goes with anything really... except puce.

Oh white... Erm i'll have to get back to you on that one...

Actually if we come to it, i find lighter blues warmer and darker blues colder... You have to watch me though i use light blue liberally cos i like the colour... don't get me started on purple... i could have done the whole thing in about 14 shades of purple... (like my bedrooms) Notice the lack of white, it's not a colour i would use (i avoid it if possible)

that's what i was thinking, how about blue and orange, just like this forum? But i was thinking the blue might make it a little too overpowering, it's bright enought with the orangified Florin and the bright orange back grout, i thought a darker colour somewhere might prevent it burning people's eyes out... wouldn't want them sueing now would we? But i figured that aso Collector's Coins has being using blue for some time now so perhaps a total break? (The 2004's blue and white isn't it? i'm sure the 1992 one was blue too)

I did think of doing it yellow but i thought it might look a bit cheap... (yellow always looks cheap to me). I just saw my 1993 Seaby catalogue which was just bright orange, nothing more nothing less just orange... So i thought i'd experiment with orange... i kinda like it, but i like orange so i would. Feel free to change the brown for black.

I think nothing works as well as orange for grabbing people's attention. Although they say blue is the first colour the human brain recognises.

Alright how about now (look above)... I'd call it GMPTE style; Oli knows what i mean...

Ah well we differ on that then, i'm always the one that goes for the dull plain books as a rule that look the same, don't like things looking out of place. Your picky over your grammar, i'm picky over having everything properly lined up and in order, uniformity.

i did a blue version too... i'll delete it shortly... to save Chris's bandwidth...

It looks better to me, more consistent with fewer colours... Next years could be green, year after red, then purple, orange, reddish-brown... Consistency but with some variance from year to year that's the key. I personally hate the way some books totally change their cover layout every year so that if you have them on the shelf together they just look totally out of place together.

Well looking at that pic i thought it looked bigger than a 10/-

Change it to prices for all non-gold coins. That should cover it. I think the writing should be darker to contrast more with the background. Actualy don't change that yet, leave all the writing color as it is but... Change the red for Dark blue... See what it looks like. (i was going to say dark green, but i guessed it might be a red/green thing)