Impulsive Chris, impulsive, mind you i did spend a good hour stood there 'umming and ahhring' (as my mother says) about whether to buy the penny or the C2 6d in GVF 1677 with 7/6 but the 7 was weak, if almost none existant, tone wasn't too bad but not exactly what i would ideally have liked. Stephen penny is pretty good actually, the dealer stated VF or better on the reciept (so that is technically a legal statement, + signed), what with the weak strikes on these issues and the appalling quality of them and the terrible dies they used, often with many smooth areas where there should be a legend, i'm inclined to partially agree but to go a little lower with an F+/AVF. Couldn't turn down a chance like that could i?