Jump to content
British Coin Forum - Predecimal.com

50 Years of RotographicCoinpublications.com A Rotographic Imprint. Price guide reference book publishers since 1959. Lots of books on coins, banknotes and medals. Please visit and like Coin Publications on Facebook for offers and updates.

Coin Publications on Facebook


The current range of books. Click the image above to see them on Amazon (printed and Kindle format). More info on coinpublications.com

predecimal.comPredecimal.com. One of the most popular websites on British pre-decimal coins, with hundreds of coins for sale, advice for beginners and interesting information.


Unidentified Variety
  • Content Count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won


Cliff last won the day on February 20 2017

Cliff had the most liked content!

Community Reputation

16 Neutral

About Cliff

  • Rank

Recent Profile Visitors

1,799 profile views
  1. Cliff

    1863 penny stumpy 'Y'.

    Another view of the 1861 Y repair
  2. Smack on the button, thanks Rob. Plain as daylight now they're pointed out to me but it needed your expertise to open my eyes!
  3. Tried that Mike and thumbed through my motley collection of books to no avail. Also tried the web for any heraldic clues etc but no go. I recall I had to do quite a bit of fumbling about a while ago to find out what a billet is.
  4. In Maurice Bull's "English Silver Coinage since 1649" he shows the number of harp strings and billets per silver currency coin year/types in the "Varieties, comments etc" column of his description tables (eg 6s - 9b). The billet count ceased wef George 1 and was replaced by a hts count, whilst retaining the harp string count (eg 6s - 5hts) and continued through George II, after which they stop. Forgive my meanderings but what are hts's?
  5. Ah ah, got it Pete, thanks. I apologize to all for my confusion. Must think things through a bit more before opening my mouth .
  6. Ian, Mike: Off on a tangent and maybe clear my head clear my head, isn't this a 2D, not a 1D as was originally offered (Obv beads toughing rim), F10?
  7. Page 507 of Coincraft's 2000 Standard Catalogue of English and UK Coins lists a "5 over 3" with no mention of 45/45. From your excellent pics I'll join you in the 45/45 camp though.
  8. I confess not being able to tell the difference BUT is Vickysilver's halfcrown a Hollow Neck (Old ESC 767, New ESC 3719)? If so, would that make any difference to the strike and composition?
  9. Cliff

    1671 Halfcrown

    Thanks Rob, much obliged.
  10. Cliff

    1671 Halfcrown

    I've started to have a look at halfcrown coins and realize that I'm at the bottom of a long steep learning curve if I'm going to continue. I recently purchased a 1671 VICESIMO TERTIO which I thought was ESC 468 (old). The more recent ESC 6th edition now classes this as ESC 457 and describes it as "No stop after HIB (7 - 10 strings)". My Irish Harp only has five strings, is this common or a variant? Your comments would be much appreciated. Cliff
  11. Thanks Kev (and Madness for contribution).
  12. What's SYO please? Had a go at looking it up but gave up at Sydney Youth Orchestra.
  13. Hello Ian, apologies for not responding earlier, been involved with youngest granddaughter's school sports-day, then collection and a sleepover plus dropping her back with her parents earlier this morning. Doesn't sound much in the telling but ....... Confirm the pics arrived in all their glory, for which I thank you very much. I think they would be great as part of an up to date Copper Penny publication if ever "someone" with the knowledge, skill, inclination and time could be persuaded to do it?!?!?!? Thanks again for your help, much appreciated. Cliff
  14. Thanks for all the info re my 1853PT Penny Ian. Would much appreciate a PM of the 8 variations you mention when you have a minute. I need to have another look at the few other 1853s I have.