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Paddy
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Now even my vu has got deja.
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OK - I know it is no great shakes, but can anyone help get as full and ID as possible on it? Thanks
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That is awful news! Does anyone know who the victims were - or what was taken? That way we can keep an eye out for any that appear on the market.
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3 minutes ago, Bronze & Copper Collector said:I'll add images when forum software allow me to do so.
I think the software will let you load more images immediately if you do a refresh of the screen - using the F5 key or the refresh button at the top. Or else come out of the thread and back in should do it. (The software is not clearing the fact that you have already loaded an image and thinks you are trying to load another image alongside your first.)
This has worked for me in the past.
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I seem to remember @AardHawk did a lot of work in this area - maybe you could work with him/her? They have not been on since October last, but may be still around.
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I have seen this many times before - the plastic used for the packaging on these early £5 coins discoloured very easily and more end up looking gold than not. If you break it out of the package you will find it is still white metal inside.
Same happens with many of the early Isle of Man Crowns.
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I don't usually get into errors of this sort, but I can confirm it is not mentioned in my 2018 Spink. No idea when it dropped out.
I also checked my copy of ESC - 6th edition 2015 - and it is not mentioned there as far as I can see. Not sure if it was just regarded as die-fill and so not worthy of a separate mention?
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11 hours ago, secret santa said:I wonder if there's a market for them, tapping into the nostalgia/curiosity ?
On my market stall, I have occasionally sold one or two to collectors of these things, but as yet the maximum they will give is.... £1!
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As well as the mismatched date/reverse, the portrait of the queen is unreasonably blurry and the rim looks too wide and uneven. How does the edge look?
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7 hours ago, mrbadexample said:Other reference numbers
Other reference: IOW2019-7-283
Might this have been found on the Isle of Wight?
... and in July 2019! Well spotted.
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Personally I prefer it repaired. A split coin, as well as unattractive, is difficult to store without the pieces constantly slipping. With coins of this age I am happy to have a decent example clearly displaying the monarch's name, and to have it at an affordable price when so many are now out of my reach.
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Just had this back from the auction house - over night response, which was brilliant.
Link to the Portable Antiquities website showing the report on its find and authenticity:
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/966481
... so repaired but genuine.
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I have bought this coin for my own collection and it has arrived today. Having spent quite a lot of money on it, I am concerned to get views as to whether it is genuine? Any comments, for and against, would be welcome.
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10 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:The sharpness of the rim edge is often a good indicator. Also, Geo VI proofs usually have mirrored fields especially FDC examples like yours would be if a proof. However, it could just as easily be an early strike and thus have crisp details.
I think it is a proof then - it was the mirror-like surfaces that first caught my eye, although they never come through as well in the photos. The edge rim is also very sharp all round.
It will go into my limited collection labelled as "Proof".
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This penny turned up in amongst a random group of GB and foreign coins. It looks very much like a proof example to me - am I right? Are there any indicators, other than just the quality of the strike, that can confirm or deny this? There was a Halfpenny in the same group, which may also be proof, so they may both have come from a broken set. (Sadly none of the other coins of the set were present!)
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I can't see it as a protest - the cuts would relate more to the king's bust if that was the intention. (Across the neck or defacing the features.)
Maybe someone testing the hardness of a tool?
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This one on the BBC today. Hoard of Celtic Gold and Silver found in the New Forest after the detectorists did some research on Google Earth to locate a possible Celtic building:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-59466710
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They vary enormously. The wrong design for the date is often the biggest. Pics of the edge would be useful too as incorrect or blundered edge lettering is also common in the errors. Weight will usually be right. (If the forgers get that wrong the coin would fail any coin operated machine.) Colour is often odd and gets odder with age as it tarnishes differently from the real thing. Alignment may also be wrong - the genuine item is struck in one go so misaligned obverse and reverse would be almost impossible, but on the fakes, quite likely.
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Yes - likely to be a forgery. Getting the wrong design for a date was common amongst the forgeries. A picture would confirm it.
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That is good. I started with Henry III and had it down as Class 5h, but then the large almond shaped eyes diverted me to the Edward I coins.
Thanks for the ID of moneyer - that helps a lot.
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I have had this one brought to me in the market. I think it is Edward I Voided Long Cross Class 6, but please let me know if I am wrong. I know it is not in great condition, but it is still of interest to the owner!
I am struggling to make out the mint and moneyer - anyone tell me what I can't see?
Henry III (?) long cross penny - help with class, moneyer and mint please.
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That is brilliant - thanks @Rob !