A newbie and a Henry III voided long cross penny

[thecapuletconspiracy]

Hey everyone,

Just a newbie here who has rediscovered my passion for coin collecting which had taken a side road when other distractions came along when I was around 14 (I'm now 20). I was hoping that some on the forum may be able to help with the classification of this Henry III penny? I've attached the photographs below, and just to clarify they are from the site I bought the coin from, I would never handle a coin without gloves!

Many thanks in advance and I hope it doesn't come across as rude asking for help in my first post

[Peter]

Welcome to the forum.

There are many classes and mints for Henry longcross 1d's.

Your coin is very worn with little to go on.I can't see a sceptre.A

good book for IDing hammered is England's striking history.

Sorry I can't be off more help.

[Colin G.]

I think I can see Nicol, so possibly moneyer Nicole and Canterbury Mint

Try this!!

May help with ID'ing, welcome to the forum, I am sure one of the hammered gurus will give you a bit more guidance

[HistoricCoinage]

Looks like Nicole on Canterbury, class 3b. With identifying these coins more accurately I'd advise for Christopher Wren's guides and/or North's guides over any other books.

[Colin G.]

Looks like Nicole on Canterbury, class 3b. With identifying these coins more accurately I'd advise for Christopher Wren's guides and/or North's guides over any other books.

Woohoo at last I am starting to get the hang of the lettering on these

[thecapuletconspiracy]

Thank you all for the replies and the welcome.

I'll make sure to check out the books mentioned. I love hammered coins, but I feel that I might concentrate on Irish hammered coins, the only problem as a student is saving enough money to buy the best examples I can! Actually I'm sure this is a problem faced by many who enjoy coin collecting.

Thanks again

[Coinery]

Thank you all for the replies and the welcome.

I'll make sure to check out the books mentioned. I love hammered coins, but I feel that I might concentrate on Irish hammered coins, the only problem as a student is saving enough money to buy the best examples I can! Actually I'm sure this is a problem faced by many who enjoy coin collecting.

Thanks again

I personally think that attempting to buy the best examples will prevent you from learning, you need as many coins in hand as possible! You're going to make all kinds of mistakes, and much better to be doing that on lower value coins! Not forgetting of course that lower-grade coins will hone your attribution skills considerably! Also, I presume, what you need is a collection? Get some stuff together with the plan to upgrade it once money and experience is more in your favour!

You could very quickly lose interest if you've only got two coins in your 'collection,' with the prospect of another month's hard saving or more to your next one!

Get the books, get some coins in hand, and get classifying, that would be my tip! Forget the struggles, just enjoy, you can struggle later, once you know exactly what you're looking for! How many beads do you want? How many jewels in the crown? Misaligned letter in the legend? Etc etc.

[thecapuletconspiracy]

[declanwmagee]

although I have to admit that I regret selling my sovereigns and half sovereigns when I did! but that is another lesson learnt

Oh I did that too! Sold a sovereign in 1987 for £55 to buy food and marijuana (not necessarily in that order!), and sold two half sovs in 2009 to put a floor in my bus.

Since then the rule is to only sell something once I've bought a better example, although I still don't have any gold.

[Colin G.]

although I have to admit that I regret selling my sovereigns and half sovereigns when I did! but that is another lesson learnt

to buy food and marijuana

Yes the normal procedure is the other way around!!

[Peter]

although I have to admit that I regret selling my sovereigns and half sovereigns when I did! but that is another lesson learnt

to buy food and marijuana

Yes the normal procedure is the other way around!!

You need both with the munchies

[Coinery]

although I have to admit that I regret selling my sovereigns and half sovereigns when I did! but that is another lesson learnt

to buy food and marijuana

Yes the normal procedure is the other way around!!

Aye!

[Coinery]

I personally think that attempting to buy the best examples will prevent you from learning, you need as many coins in hand as possible! You're going to make all kinds of mistakes, and much better to be doing that on lower value coins! Not forgetting of course that lower-grade coins will hone your attribution skills considerably! Also, I presume, what you need is a collection? Get some stuff together with the plan to upgrade it once money and experience is more in your favour!

You could very quickly lose interest if you've only got two coins in your 'collection,' with the prospect of another month's hard saving or more to your next one!

Get the books, get some coins in hand, and get classifying, that would be my tip! Forget the struggles, just enjoy, you can struggle later, once you know exactly what you're looking for! How many beads do you want? How many jewels in the crown? Misaligned letter in the legend? Etc etc.

I have a reality large collection (more quantity than quality sadly), mostly acquired when I was 11-16, as I used to work at an antique dealers establishment and went along to auctions and bought and sold a lot of stuff myself, and whenever Trevor look a stall at a fair, he always allowed me to bring some of my stuff along. My parents recently bought me a Peter Nichols Crozier Coin Cabinet from a local auction house as an early 21st birthday present which reawakened my interest and here I am.

Thanks for the advice, what you have stated makes more sense than spending large amounts of money this early on. The monetary value of my collection as it presently sits, or in the future, is of no interest to me per se. I am an archaeology student and appreciate coins for their beauty and social history, although I have to admit that I regret selling my sovereigns and half sovereigns when I did! but that is another lesson learnt

Ahh, then you'll be a reasonably well informed collector, requiring a very different approach - buy quality!