Chris Perkins Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 A couple of you may be interested in this - My list of forgeries, in a pretty random order. Most are well used, but a few are rather nice. Some are contemporary, some clearly not and some I'm not entirely sure. About 200 coins in total, including 17 modern £1's.3 Shilling bank token 1813, copper (silvering gone), surfaces pitted 12.38g 34.8mm3 Shilling bank token 1812, brass (silvering gone) 14.05g 34.6mm3 Shilling bank token 1812, brass (most silvering there)3 Shilling bank token 1811, brass (silvering gone) 13.82g 35mm3 Shilling bank token 1815, brass (silvering gone) 14.73g 34.9mm3 shilling bank token 1815, brass (very dark, could possibly pass as toned silver) 12.42g 34.8mm1s 6d bank token, copper (silvering gone) great definition, contemporaryFourpence Henry IV, very good electrotypeHalf Crown 1645/6 MM sun, copper, contemporaryHalf Crown Charles I, damagedHalf Crown WmIII, very worn date not clear. Contemporary.Half Crown WmIII, as aboveHalf Crown 1696, copperHalf Crown 1817, brass, most of silvering intact.Half Crown 1819, brass, most of silvering gone.Half Crown 1837Half Crown 1845Half Crown 1874Half Crown 1893 wavyHalf Crown 1926, bent from being testedHalf Crown 1933, as aboveHalf Crown 1938 lead-like.Half Crown 1950 excellent conditionHalf Crown 1950, anotherSome other George III half crowns, various metals1817 x31818 x11819 x11820 x2Shilling, Edward IV electrotypeShilling, Carlise 1645 Charles I S3138 assumed contemp, crude.Shilling, Charles I, very good electrotypeShilling, James I, very good electrotypeShilling, WmIII, date not clear, copperShilling, 1699 copperShilling 1819 holedShilling, 1819 mostly silvered, excellent qualityShilling 1864 die 18Shilling, 1918 lead-likeShilling, 1948. Excellent condition but not right!Shilling 1950EShilling 1954EShilling 1957EShillings, George III x8Sixpence, Charles I electrotype x2 differentSixpence, 1651 commonwealth electrotypeSixpence James I electrotypeSixpence 1699Sixpence 1935Sixpences George III x4Florin Gothic, date not clear. Contemp.Florin 1873Florin 1899, in 2 halves from original test.Florin Edward VII, date not clearFathings, Richmond type x6, prob modernFarthing, Queen Anne, silver pattern 1713 (originally bought as genuine by prev. owner from Colin Cooke).Farthing, Queen Anne, copper gilt 1713Farthing, Queen Anne 1714 copperFathings George III x3Half Pennies, George III - about 50 of varying quality. Inc one brockageHalf Sovereign 1892, most of gold colour gone.Third Guineas, George III x4Crown, Gothic 1847, presumed modern? 21.47g 39.5mmCrown, BofE dollar 1804,probably modern? 22.44g 41.3mmCrown, BofE dollar 1804, brass (silvering gone) contemporaryCrown 1687, presumed modern? 25.4g 40.2mmCrown 1696/Charles II obv, mule. Def contemporary, silver outer almost intact 25.44g 37.5mmCrown 1890 contemporary 27.74g 38.5mmCrown 1696, copper (silvering gone) contemporary 22.82g 38.7mmCrown 1692, presumed modern? 22.75g 39mmCrown 1889 contemporary. Quarter of coin is cut out 15.15gCrown 1644 Oxford. Excellent detail, must be modern 17.99g 40.6mmCrown 1898 with milled edge, crude. Assumed modern.Crown 1845, nice but looks modern.Crown 1819 x2, lead-like contemporary or Victorian.Two Pounds 1821, copper, most of gold colour goneTwo pounds 1823, not to deceive, as watch fob with attachment.Two pounds 1823, crude brass, holed.Two pounds 1823, very crude brass.Threepence 1905 contemporaryPenny 1831, brassPenny 1841, ghastly with mirrored letters. A right contemporary cock up.Penny 1845, lead-likePenny 1854, lead-likeGuinea 1710, brass, gold colour tracesScottish 60 shillings 1582, copper contemporary 20.7g 41.9mmScottish Ryal 1565 with 1578 revaluation mark. Contemporary? 32.36 44.8mmIreland 6 Shilling bank token 1804, dark areas showing through. Def contemporary 25.1g 40.8mmIrelend 10 pence token 1813, brassIreland 20 pence token 1808, brassAnglo-Saxon 'ADELBERT' short cross not ID'd.One Pound (decimal) 17 various typesHong Kong dollar mule 1866/Edward VII obverse. Modern.Contemporary Spanish:5 Pts 18855 Pts 1891 (baby king)5 Pts 18995 Pts 18855 Pts 1882 silvered brass20 Rs 18378 Rs 1792 (column piece of 8)4 Es 1865, some gold colour remainingSouth Africa, Pond 1896 brassGerman, Prussia 1 Thaler 1799 A. Brass, contemporary.India Rupee 1904India Rupee 1915Ancient Greek:Large Syracuse Decadrachm, nice but fairly modernSilver Stater Chalcidice, head of Apollo x2 Quote
Peter Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Blimey ChrisHave you just come out as a forgerienumismatic type chap.?Later SEUK will be sneeking in the pantry window. Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 I'm intrigued about this, Chris: Anglo-Saxon 'ADELBERT' short cross not ID'd. Quote
TomGoodheart Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 A photo of the electrotype Stuart shillings would be of interest, if you have one? Quote
Chris Perkins Posted May 4, 2012 Author Posted May 4, 2012 I've had these kicking about for ages, added the odd one here and there and mainly filtered them out of purchased collections.I had a feeling I'd get asked for pictures. Will try to do some at the weekend. It was only when I'd listed them that I realised I had 200, give or take! Quote
Chris Perkins Posted May 4, 2012 Author Posted May 4, 2012 I'm intrigued about this, Chris: Anglo-Saxon 'ADELBERT' short cross not ID'd. Found this one, it's a Spink 1100 - Aethelstan with building on the back and moneyer Adelbert (from York) written under it. Quote
seuk Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Blimey ChrisHave you just come out as a forgerienumismatic type chap.?Later SEUK will be sneeking in the pantry window. Would especially be interested in pictures/scans of the Irish 6/- and BoE Dollars.Lost this a few days ago - wonder if the winner knew he was buying a counterfeit...not very clear in description.Are you starting a collection Chris? I have lots of duplicates for trade!! Quote
seuk Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Here's the Irish 6s.Nice one Not sure - but it looks like cast and plated - I got a similar sheffield plated BoE dollar, very professionally done unlike most cast counterfeits. Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 I'm intrigued about this, Chris: Anglo-Saxon 'ADELBERT' short cross not ID'd. Found this one, it's a Spink 1100 - Aethelstan with building on the back and moneyer Adelbert (from York) written under it.Ah, I'm presuming an Ashmore? Quote
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