George V - 1920 Deeply Engraved Portrait Vs Recut Shallow Portrait.

[RobJ]

I am looking to purchase the George V 1920 Debased Silver coins for my 'Type' Collection and I was wondering if anyone could help me with how to differentiate between the Deeply Engraved Portrait and Recut Shallow Portrait.

Are there any easy pointers to look out for to differentiate between the two different types?

Any help and information is as always greatly appreciated.

[Peckris]

I am looking to purchase the George V 1920 Debased Silver coins for my 'Type' Collection and I was wondering if anyone could help me with how to differentiate between the Deeply Engraved Portrait and Recut Shallow Portrait.

Are there any easy pointers to look out for to differentiate between the two different types?

Any help and information is as always greatly appreciated.

The easiest way - by far - is to line up a pre-1920 and post-1921 shilling side by side and examine them. But briefly :

the deeply engraved portrait has a higher and bolder rim;

it's slightly concave, dishing upwards towards the rim;

the gap between legend and rim is only about half the distance;

the higher modelling of the portrait makes it look a little smaller;

the hair detail on EF and above is much better cut;

George's nose doesn't point directly to the S as it does on the Shallow portrait.

Please note, this only applies to 1920 and 1921 (rare) shillings, where there are two types. If you get a shilling dated between 1922 and 1926 (pre-ME) then they are all shallow recut portrait.

[Peckris]

I am looking to purchase the George V 1920 Debased Silver coins for my 'Type' Collection and I was wondering if anyone could help me with how to differentiate between the Deeply Engraved Portrait and Recut Shallow Portrait.

Are there any easy pointers to look out for to differentiate between the two different types?

Any help and information is as always greatly appreciated.

And just as a bonus, here is the document I sent to Spink for them to use (or rather, bollox up!)

[RobJ]

Thank you very much indeed for all of the information and detailed image Peckris.

Once you look at the two different OBV. and take into acount what you have said, it is quite easy to differentiate between the two types.

This is exactly the information that I was looking for.

[RobJ]

And just as a bonus, here is the document I sent to Spink for them to use (or rather, bollox up!)

How did they manage to do that? lol

[Peckris]

Thank you very much indeed for all of the information and detailed image Peckris.

Once you look at the two different OBV. and take into acount what you have said, it is quite easy to differentiate between the two types.

This is exactly the information that I was looking for.

And just as a bonus, here is the document I sent to Spink for them to use (or rather, bollox up!)

How did they manage to do that? lol

You're very welcome Rob As for the Spink 'bollox up', the "nose to S" is what they've listed for the deep-cut portrait; it's not, it's the shallow portrait. Plus, their price differential for the two types of 1921 shilling is ridiculous - the deep-cut portrait is RARE (only discovered long after decimlaisation); even with a small market for them, the differential should be much greater.

[RobJ]

You're very welcome Rob As for the Spink 'bollox up', the "nose to S" is what they've listed for the deep-cut portrait; it's not, it's the shallow portrait. Plus, their price differential for the two types of 1921 shilling is ridiculous - the deep-cut portrait is RARE (only discovered long after decimlaisation); even with a small market for them, the differential should be much greater.

Oh I see! lol

That was very clever of them wasn't it? lol Its not like your Image and information didn't make it clear enough for them.

Talk about not being able to see something as clearly as if it were on the end of your nose!

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. lol)

[RobJ]

Duplicate Post.

Edited January 23, 2011 by RobJ

[Peckris]

Talk about not being able to see something as clearly as if it were on the end of your nose!

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. lol)