Voynov_BG Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 Hi, friends, found this coin in bulk lot, maybe is normal toothed border both sides, but please see image - maybe is beaded on obverse?It is worn but please for your opinion. Quote
argentumandcoins Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 The mule has a toothed obverse and beaded reverse, so although yours is badly worn it cannot be the mule as the reverse is clearly toothed border.John. Quote
Voynov_BG Posted October 3, 2010 Author Posted October 3, 2010 Hi, thank you, my mistake - I did not know this... Quote
argentumandcoins Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 Hi, thank you, my mistake - I did not know this...That's why we all use the forum, for help and advice from others.Regards,John. Quote
Voynov_BG Posted October 4, 2010 Author Posted October 4, 2010 Thank you John, I will use this topic for another question about another 1860 farthing - coin has large dot (or other defect?) over first "I" in Victoria, also "I" in date is "I" over lower "I" - what is your opinion, it is common defects for this date or maybe some value over normal CV?Thanks... Quote
Peckris Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Hi, thank you, my mistake - I did not know this...Another thing to bear in mind : it's a strange quirk of the beaded border that until it's all but a featureless disc, a few beads will survive intact. It's extremely rare for a coin to be in your grade and not show a complete bead or few. That's another (not very scientific) way to tell them. Quote
argentumandcoins Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 Thank you John, I will use this topic for another question about another 1860 farthing - coin has large dot (or other defect?) over first "I" in Victoria, also "I" in date is "I" over lower "I" - what is your opinion, it is common defects for this date or maybe some value over normal CV?Thanks...Colin is more qualified than me to comment on Farthings. I have a large stock already as they are very slow sellers, so I tend not to bother looking at them when I attend auctions.Freeman states that flaws and weak strikes are common on the 1860 obverses. I note that yours also has a flaw above the A of Victoria. The first flaw looks like an apostrophe so if it was a Penny you would probably have created a new variety!The reverse is more interesting with the very badly re-cut linear circle and the 1 and 6 of the date both re-cut.I don't think the flaws would increase the value, but they certainly increase the appeal to me. I like oddities and find them much more interesting than the other identical coins of the same date. Quote
Colin G. Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 John is right, if it were a penny it would become a variety, but it does look like some form of damage to the die. I do record these where possible just to get an idea of frequency and whether it is a progressive flaw.The recut linear circle is quite a common feature on 1860 coins and is really bad on some of them Quote
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