can anyone help?

[Master Jmd]

I was looking at my 'doubles' of George VI pennies, and i noticed that in one of them, the first line of the 'N' in 'PENNY' pointed to a tooth, whilst on another 1937 penny the first line of 'N' in 'PENNY' pointed in between two teeth...amazingly; i googled and found that there are theese 2 types...but unfortunately, the website did not tell me if one of them was rare or not...can anyone shed morelight on this subject?

[Emperor Oli]

Ok there are two types:

Rev Aa - Ns point to border teeth

Rev Ab - Ns point between teeth (this is the rarer one)

Don't post to thank me, it was 30sec work!

[Master Jmd]

Ok there are two types:

Rev Aa - Ns point to border teeth

Rev Ab - Ns point between teeth (this is the rarer one)

Don't post to thank me, it was 30sec work!

what is the value of Rev Ab - Ns point between teeth (this is the rarer one) in BU full lustre condition?

[custard1966]

They're both common.

Neither is rarer than the other according to Gouby - both rated as abundant

Freeman rates the second type slightly rarer - c11 vs c8

So there's not much in it.

[Half Penny Jon]

I was not aware that there was so many varieties for modern coinage. Are there and varieties for decimal coinage apart from the obvious design changes?

[Sylvester]

well there are the milling varities on the 1992 5ps and 10ps... not to mention all the pointings on the 1992 10ps, so many varieties, including a rare one.

[Half Penny Jon]

Which is the rare one?

[Sylvester]

one with the flat broad edge milling, L I in Elizabeth pointing at bead (or dot), and the 1 in 10 pointing at a Dot, just think 'dot to dot'.

I've been looking over a year and i think i've got about 4 now, maybe 5 if i'm really lucky.

Out of the entire mintage in 1992, they comprise much less than 1% of it. It's still a several hundred thousand, but, and here is the but!

1) The ones found in proof sets are not this type,

2) The ones found in UNC sets are probably not this type either, as these rarer ones were minted towards the end of the year. (they are remarkably like the 1996/7 pointings)

Which means every single one is in circulation, thus what's the chance of a UNC one turning up in future?

[Half Penny Jon]

You will not believe this but I have just found one in my bedroom out of 17 1992 ten pences. I will put it to one side until I am old and grey!

[Sylvester]

you are lucky! (it definately says 1992 right?) cos i thought i'd found a few once but they were 1996... Oh the irony, now if i had been looking for a 1996...

They do turn up occasionally, if the mintage figures are precise then exactly 1% would mean that of the rarer type there are 1,291,743 of them in existence, but the mintage was much less than 1% according to Tony Clayton's site, which means that there could be less than 1 million minted, which means they are a good deal scarcer than many predecimal coins of George V's reign, and scarcer than even some Edward VII coins.

The other scarce variant of 1992 10p, with the L and I pointing between dots, and the 1 in 10 also between dots, with broad flat milling are quite scarce, also less than 1% of the mintage.

more info see...

http://www.tclayton.demon.co.uk/dec5.html

(anyone got a 1992 mint set [not proof] so that we can ascertain which type is in there, i'm thinking L I between dots and 1 in 10 at dot.

[william]

Sylvester, I have a 1992 5p with flat broad edge milling, is that rare, or is it just the 10p that's rare?

[Master Jmd]

hehe, i have all of the types of 1992 10p's and ive got 2 of the rare Obv B, Rev A, Flat Edge

[Guest Guest]

you are lucky! (it definately says 1992 right?) cos i thought i'd found a few once but they were 1996... Oh the irony, now if i had been looking for a 1996...

They do turn up occasionally, if the mintage figures are precise then exactly 1% would mean that of the rarer type there are 1,291,743 of them in existence, but the mintage was much less than 1% according to Tony Clayton's site, which means that there could be less than 1 million minted, which means they are a good deal scarcer than many predecimal coins of George V's reign, and scarcer than even some Edward VII coins.

The other scarce variant of 1992 10p, with the L and I pointing between dots, and the 1 in 10 also between dots, with broad flat milling are quite scarce, also less than 1% of the mintage.

more info see...

http://www.tclayton.demon.co.uk/dec5.html

(anyone got a 1992 mint set [not proof] so that we can ascertain which type is in there, i'm thinking L I between dots and 1 in 10 at dot.

I am definately sure because my ten pences were closely scrutinised under an eyeglass.

[Half Penny Jon]

Second note to self: always log on when posting.

[william]

Second note to self: always log on when posting.

It generally helps....

[Sylvester]

just the 10ps William, the 5ps are all common to my knowledge.

[Half Penny Jon]

Maybe the rare ten pences will be valuable when we are all old and grey! (Well, at least more than ten pence I hope)!

[william]

just the 10ps William, the 5ps are all common to my knowledge.

Ok, thanks

[Sylvester]

Maybe the rare ten pences will be valuable when we are all old and grey! (Well, at least more than ten pence I hope)!

they will be if you don't tell anyone for a few years and let them get more hammer in circulation.

Then announce it, and once demand goes up, it should appreciate a bit i should imagine. (more than 10p at least!)