Emperor Oli Posted May 8, 2004 Posted May 8, 2004 I went on the Coincraft site in order to email them and ask if they are going to publish a new catalogue, like the 2000 edition. And then I got a free copy of "The Phoenix" whatever that is. I shall report back with results! Quote
custard1966 Posted May 8, 2004 Posted May 8, 2004 The Phoenix is a newpaper format sales list, with the usual Coincraft stuff as well as antiquities and some collectable hammered & milled stuff.I've just started receiving it again after a gap of about three years - no idea why. Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 8, 2004 Author Posted May 8, 2004 Thanks for clearing that up. So is it a subscription or what? Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted May 9, 2004 Posted May 9, 2004 I got a free copy and I have to say that I thought the prices were very very high! Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 9, 2004 Author Posted May 9, 2004 I've heard good things about their 2000 catalogue though. That's on the top of my list when they release a new edition! Quote
william Posted May 9, 2004 Posted May 9, 2004 I believe that book has lots of different varieties in it Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 9, 2004 Author Posted May 9, 2004 Yes, that's one of the reasons I would buy it. Plus I think it's A4 size so it should have some nice big pictures in it too. For all their faults, Coincraft does produce a cracking book. Quote
william Posted May 9, 2004 Posted May 9, 2004 Yes, that's one of the reasons I would buy it. Plus I think it's A4 size so it should have some nice big pictures in it too. For all their faults, Coincraft does produce a cracking book. Shame you won't buy it cos it's from Coincraft, Will j/k I just avoid Coincraft completely... What is in the book exactly, if I knew what was in it I might buy it you know! Is it a price guide? If it is, that would be good, cos you'll be able to see what prices are rip offs! Quote
Geoff T Posted May 9, 2004 Posted May 9, 2004 I got a free copy and I have to say that I have never seen such outragous prices printed on paper! I don't know which is the worst thing about The Phoenix - the OTT prices, the fact that it's jam-packed with things like Samoan Princess Di memorial crowns or its complete disregard for the basics of English grammar and punctuation. I got the latest edition yesterday and it was in the bin before bedtime.(On balance, I think it's its illiterate English which really makes me weep). Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 10, 2004 Author Posted May 10, 2004 Ii got a reply today to my question ("Are you planning to publush another catalogue soon?"):not at the moment, may produce an updated price list but in the distantfuture. many thanksSo there we go, chaps. Sorry! Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 10, 2004 Author Posted May 10, 2004 It takes a lot of work to produce a catalogue of the likes that they produce. It shouldn't be taken lightly at any rate - I'd rather have a well thought out one five years in the making then a slap-dash affair. Quote
Chris Perkins Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 I got a free copy and I have to say that I have never seen such outragous prices printed on paper!I don't know which is the worst thing about The Phoenix - the OTT prices, the fact that it's jam-packed with things like Samoan Princess Di memorial crowns or its complete disregard for the basics of English grammar and punctuation. I got the latest edition yesterday and it was in the bin before bedtime.(On balance, I think it's its illiterate English which really makes me weep). I don't like the way that the Coincraft literature really seems to sound so American.Fair enough, so American English has crept in everywhere, and I'll admit that some of it isn't really bad, and I don't cringe as much as I used to at most things. I dare say when relaxed I may even slip into a little Ameriglish (do you like that!?) sometimes myself.But I really cannot spend too much time reading a coin craft text without clicking on the right hand cross or casting the thing aside. Did you know, the man himself (ever such a nice chap, of course) Richard Lobel, is in fact an American. I know that, because I've rubbed shoulders with him literally, and heard him speak at London Coin fairs. Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 Wow, I didn't know that he is American. Does he specialise in English coins or does he prefer american? Quote
Chris Perkins Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 He said he specialises in Samoan Princess Diana commomoratives! (I really don't know, but I would think British) Quote
william Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 He said he specialises in Samoan Princess Diana commomoratives! (I really don't know, but I would think British)Does he collect coins?OMG, look at this: http://www.coincraft.com/british/bronze/712proll.html Why would anyone want a roll of unc 1971 2ps? Plus, what's the price? It says £18.50 in the description and £12.50 at the bottom! Quote
Chris Perkins Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 Oh dear, the usual 'We found these coins in the vault that we didn't realise we had'. Who is this Alan magician that seems to make coins appear from no where?And that's bordering on mis representation too, because it's playing on the 2p New pence rumour. It almost (to the untrained eye) implies that the 2p's with 'New pence' on them are rare:Each roll contains 50 Brilliant Uncirculated coins, all with the denomination 'New Pence'. These rolls are Rare and if you wanted to go and try and find them, you would have a lot of trouble.Very misleading for ameteurs, and anyone that buys those coins at that price (or the other price :s) should not be collecting coins. I would hate to think of someone buying those for a gift for someone too.That is outrageous, do Coincraft actually have anything that wasn't either commissioned by them, or that is available in large numbers? Quote
Geoff T Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 I did know Richard was American, but it's not the Americanisation of the literature which bothers me. Literate Americans know what punctuation is for and don't go putting comma splices and greengrocers' apostrophes everywhere. If I were the editor those things would never get as far as the proof stage. The people who write for me get shot at dawn every day for week if they murder the language like that. Quote
Geoff T Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Have any of them used any language like that? They're all highly educated music librarians, so they wouldn't dream of murdering the language like that Quote
william Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Have any of them used any language like that? They're all highly educated music librarians, so they wouldn't dream of murdering the language like that Us musicians don't do anything nasty like that do we Geoff? Quote
Geoff T Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Wow, I didn't know that he is American. Does he specialise in English coins or does he prefer american? His big thing is Edward VIII memorabilia, although I don't know if he as any genuine British coins. He certainly plugs the retropatterns. Quote
william Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 (edited) Wow, I didn't know that he is American. Does he specialise in English coins or does he prefer american? His big thing is Edward VIII memorabilia, although I don't know if he as any genuine British coins. He certainly plugs the retropatterns. I wonder what he sees in those things. I thing they're horrible personally... Yep, a whole list of pattern Edward VIII crowns, just as we expected... Edited May 11, 2004 by william Quote
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