1954 thicker rimmed reverse farthing?

[scott]

well there are proven differant rim thicknesses on elizabeth II in penny and halfpenny, but never seen a farthing before, i have pictures of both sides of the farthing which shows 2 differant rim thicknesses, i have a full date run of wren farthings and this 1954 is the only one with this rim, i have only seen it one other time (was another one on ebay few weeks ago) the reverse and obverse should be the same thickness.

dunno if you can see the differance (was closer i think for one side...) but yea.. its differant, i'll try and get another picture of my 1956 (was blurred) which shows the differance, if need be.

[Gary D]

well there are proven differant rim thicknesses on elizabeth II in penny and halfpenny, but never seen a farthing before, i have pictures of both sides of the farthing which shows 2 differant rim thicknesses, i have a full date run of wren farthings and this 1954 is the only one with this rim, i have only seen it one other time (was another one on ebay few weeks ago) the reverse and obverse should be the same thickness.

dunno if you can see the differance (was closer i think for one side...) but yea.. its differant, i'll try and get another picture of my 1956 (was blurred) which shows the differance, if need be.

That's interesting. I checked mine out, only got 2 and they are both wide rim reverse. Something I did notice was that the observe side the rims are much thicker than the 1953, 1955 and 1956. I wonder if there is a narrow 1955 obverse. Must keep and eye out.

[DaveG38]

Scott

Are you saying that there are two varieties of the 1954 farthing based on differences in rim thickness or that the 1954 farthing differs from the others in the Elizabeth II series? If the former what are characteristics of the two types in relation to the obverse and reverse. In other words, is it a matter of both thin and both thick, or are there four types with 2 x thin, 2 x thick, thin plus thick, and thick plus thin?

DaveG38

[scott]

havn't looked into it fully, i got this in bulk and was interested in it as it stood out, i havn't got a lot of 1954 farthings for obvious reasons... no point, but if people go throught many farthings then it might have some light shed.

http://www.myfarthings.co.uk/elizabethII1954.html

good place to look, the rim on that one seems thinner

Edited April 17, 2009 by scott

[scott]

edit button gone..

just found someone selling a full run of farthings 1902-56

there is a 1954 in there, the rim looks exactly the same as the others

[Colin G.]

As standard the 1954 farthings do tend have a thicker rim than the other farthings in the series, and there seems to also be some variation in the thickness of the thicker rim, but there is no clear defined varieties, they really do vary in degrees of thickness.

As Scott says some automatically stand out as being thicker, but there are not two clear cut varieties in my opinion, but a mix of thicknesses. Probably an area that warrants more research, to check the variance in coin diameters and rim thickness etc

[scott]

i have had a look at at 1953 and 1955 to see if there was any sort of logical explanation (changes for 1955) but couldn't find anything.

so far i have foind 2 with normal rims on ebay these past 2 days.