Edward Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 Oli, I had no idea about the variations on the 1953 1/4d. You are a wizard. Is there some Farthing Bible you can refer me to? Quote
Chris Perkins Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 All the 1953 varieties (and many others) are listed in the Collectors Coins GB 2004!Oh what a wonderful book that is. Quote
Edward Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 Ok, so I've been keeping my nose in my Spink too much! You know I have both the 1820-date and the Geo III. Quote
Chris Perkins Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 Ah yes, so you do. Silly me, for some reason I thought I just sold you the GIII. Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 5, 2004 Author Posted May 5, 2004 No it's not, they are both beaded. I'm right and you will also find Mr. Cooke agrees. And what do you mean beaded on the date side and toothed on the farthing side? They are both the same "side" or reverse oops, i meant; toothed on the reverse, beaded on the obverse... Quote
william Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 No it's not, they are both beaded. I'm right and you will also find Mr. Cooke agrees. And what do you mean beaded on the date side and toothed on the farthing side? They are both the same "side" or reverse oops, i meant; toothed on the reverse, beaded on the obverse... Are you absolutely sure that it is toothed on the recerse and beaded on the obverse, have another look at those pics I posted... Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 5, 2004 Author Posted May 5, 2004 Are you absolutely sure that it is toothed on the recerse and beaded on the obverse, have another look at those pics I posted...i am positive...sorry about the picture, it is hard to see, but this is it: Quote
william Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 Looks beaded to me, but I can't make it out very well. I am comparing it to my 1955 farthing, and the borders are both beaded on mine! Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 MJMD, unless you have some rare misstrike, you are wrong. They have only beaded reverses. Oli, I had no idea about the variations on the 1953 1/4d. You are a wizard. Is there some Farthing Bible you can refer me to?Lol, no. I've just started to specialise in Farthings and am hoping (probably in vain!) to spot some new varieties so i've just brushed up on the existing ones. Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 5, 2004 Author Posted May 5, 2004 MJMD, unless you have some rare misstrike, you are wrong. They have only beaded reverses. it must be a rare mistrike then Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 Just post some scans and then we will know because from those blurry pics, it looked like beading anyway Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 Hmmm that is an oddity. If one looks at the pictures in Spink a bit closer, the reverse does actually match yours and it classes it as beading, not toothing. Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 5, 2004 Author Posted May 5, 2004 Hmmm that is an oddity. If one looks at the pictures in Spink a bit closer, the reverse does actually match yours and it classes it as beading, not toothing. so is it 'rare'? Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 Well apparently there arew six varieties listed in Collector's Coins 2004. If someone could scan the page (and host it on another site to save bandwidth!) then we will see if MJMD's is a variety. If not, the combos I listed above make yours quite rare I think. Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 5, 2004 Author Posted May 5, 2004 ok, whilst we wait, could you tell me if there are different types of 1954, 1955 and/or 1956 farthings? Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 I don't think there are. However, you will have to ask expert Oli! Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 As far as I know, there are no other varieties for QEII. There are, however, varieties for KGV and KEVIII. There are two varieties for George. The first, Obverse 1 has the "TT" in "BRITT" on the obverse close together. Obverse 2 has them, obviously, wider apart.The Edward ones are the 1902 specimens which are identified by the quality of the striking. Type A, the one commonly held to be first minted, has a weakly struck area on the breastplate of Britannia on the reverse, with little or no detail. These only crop up in the higher grades however. Type B is the common issue. And of course there are the different tides on KEVII:Low Tide : 1903 High Tide : 1902, 1904-10 Quote
william Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 I don't think Master JMDs one is a rarity, my 1955 one looks just the same... Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 6, 2004 Author Posted May 6, 2004 I don't think Master JMDs one is a rarity, my 1955 one looks just the same... my 1955 is beaded on both sides, and oli has said that there are no other varieties of QEII farthings... Quote
william Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 I don't think Master JMDs one is a rarity, my 1955 one looks just the same...my 1955 is beaded on both sides, and oli has said that there are no other varieties of QEII farthings... Your 1953 is beaded as well, I'm just saying that it doesn't sound rare, as it looks identical to my 1955 Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 6, 2004 Author Posted May 6, 2004 Your 1953 is beaded as well, I'm just saying that it doesn't sound rare, as it looks identical to my 1955 my 1953 farthing is beaded on the obverse and toothed on the reverce, not beaded on both sides... Quote
william Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 If one looks at the pictures in Spink a bit closer, the reverse does actually match yours and it classes it as beading, not toothing. Oh yes it is! Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 8, 2004 Posted May 8, 2004 I've just pulled out my trays of late farthings and they are toothed on the reverse however both Spink and other sites class it as beading Something is awry here! Quote
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