1887 Shilling Proof or Not?

[freddurst]

Hello,

I would like to show you some pictures of one shilling 1887 Jubilee Head. Because I new in the British coins and I need your help to identify is this coin a proof or not?

The coin have very good mirror like fields on the both sides, but on the obverse is more visible.You can see the reflection of my camera on the coin. I have 2 pcs from this coin but the other one is not looking mirror. But this could be maybe because is a little more dirty.

Also on my second one the device between 18 87 is pointing to a rim tooth. I read in Chris Perkins new book that this variety is more scarcer, is there a price difference between this two varieties?

I don't know If any one can identify is this coin proof only by the picture, I tried to take the best possible pictures, I hope did well

Thank you in advance.

[Gary D]

Hello,

I would like to show you some pictures of one shilling 1887 Jubilee Head. Because I new in the British coins and I need your help to identify is this coin a proof or not?

The coin have very good mirror like fields on the both sides, but on the obverse is more visible.You can see the reflection of my camera on the coin. I have 2 pcs from this coin but the other one is not looking mirror. But this could be maybe because is a little more dirty.

Also on my second one the device between 18 87 is pointing to a rim tooth. I read in Chris Perkins new book that this variety is more scarcer, is there a price difference between this two varieties?

I don't know If any one can identify is this coin proof only by the picture, I tried to take the best possible pictures, I hope did well

Thank you in advance.

There are three varieties listed in Davies but we need to see the other side of the cion t identify it.

[Geoff T]

Early strikes of the 1887 Jubilee head coins can have highly reflective, prooflike fields, but they're not proofs. I have the 1887 florin in this condition, as well as a genuine 1887 proof shilling, and when the two are compared side by side the difference becomes apparent. A genuine proof should have, not just sharper details, but sharper reeding (milling) round the edge.

I don't think you have a proof there, and even if it were the obviously visible marks would detract from its value.

Geoff

Hello,

I would like to show you some pictures of one shilling 1887 Jubilee Head. Because I new in the British coins and I need your help to identify is this coin a proof or not?

The coin have very good mirror like fields on the both sides, but on the obverse is more visible.You can see the reflection of my camera on the coin. I have 2 pcs from this coin but the other one is not looking mirror. But this could be maybe because is a little more dirty.

Also on my second one the device between 18 87 is pointing to a rim tooth. I read in Chris Perkins new book that this variety is more scarcer, is there a price difference between this two varieties?

I don't know If any one can identify is this coin proof only by the picture, I tried to take the best possible pictures, I hope did well

Thank you in advance.

[scottishmoney]

They have both been cleaned sometime, that detracts from value.

[freddurst]

Here is some more pictures of the 2 coins :

The first picture is the reverse of the coin above.

The second one is the same coin zoomed area between the date.

[freddurst]

The third picture is my second coin zoomed area between the date

[freddurst]

I noticed something different between the coins see the pictures. T in SOIT looks closer to the I and also the letters look bold.

[Sergy]

I noticed something different between the coins see the pictures. T in SOIT looks closer to the I and also the letters look bold.

Q looks totaly different too.

[HistoricCoinage]

Are they the same size?

Could one not be a sixpence and the other a shilling?

Clive.

[freddurst]

Are they the same size?

Could one not be a sixpence and the other a shilling?

Clive.

Both coins are the same size - one shilling. I didn't notice the Q It looks strange too.

[Gary D]

Are they the same size?

Could one not be a sixpence and the other a shilling?

Clive.

Both coins are the same size - one shilling. I didn't notice the Q It looks strange too.

The Q is the clue to the different varieties.

Reverse A Small garter letters. 'Q' has long loopless tail.

Reverse B Large garter letters. 'Q' has almost no tail.

Reverse C Medium garter letters. 'Q' has curved looped tail.

I would say you has an 'A' and a 'C'

Reverse C has the least value, B about 1.5 x C and A about 4 x C being the scarsest.

[freddurst]

Thanks to every one !!!

It's very useful information.