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[Hussulo]

Received this one today. It appears to be a 1922 Halfcrown reverse die trial in lead. Is it reverse A or B?

Ps sorry about the typo in the title im posting in a rush tonight before I go out.

Edited May 12, 2007 by Hussulo

[Chris Perkins]

Nice calipers!

I'm always a bit weary of lead things, because its easy to melt/use and make forgeries or curios with; not that I'm doubting your piece.

[Hussulo]

Nice calipers!

[scottishmoney]

With that image and a request for a larger one with a higher pixel count, I surmise that it is what we call a splasher, or a trial that was struck in lead. I mention the better image, because as CP notes these can be cast forgeries, but this looks good so far as a genuinely struck piece.

[Hussulo]

With that image and a request for a larger one with a higher pixel count, I surmise that it is what we call a splasher, or a trial that was struck in lead. I mention the better image, because as CP notes these can be cast forgeries, but this looks good so far as a genuinely struck piece.

Here's another picture with more light on it.

[E Dawson]

This coin is a tough call. The crown does not overlay the shield so will check Davies on that but I think it is the second type. As to the veracity of the piece, very difficult to determine with these lead bits as has been alluded to above. Will do some checking tonight though.

[Hussulo]

This coin is a tough call. The crown does not overlay the shield so will check Davies on that but I think it is the second type. As to the veracity of the piece, very difficult to determine with these lead bits as has been alluded to above. Will do some checking tonight though.

Thank you.

[E Dawson]

Hussolo - sorry have not forgotten you but been out of town for a moment or two. Will try to get this ASAP for you .

[Hussulo]

Hussolo - sorry have not forgotten you but been out of town for a moment or two. Will try to get this ASAP for you .

No worries. Whenever you have time.

[E Dawson]

Uggh, my Davies is on vacation - probably in a pile of catalogues somewhere! Gonna keep looking for this though.

[Geoff T]

I can check my Davies when I get home this evening. It lives almost permanently next to my bed

Geoff

[E Dawson]

Maybe mine went to visit relatives? Uggh, the housecleaner managed to put things neatly and therefore I am lost...I had taking to calling the reverses Type I and Type II with the most obvious criteria being the crown overlap on the shield on I going to a space between the crown and shield on Type II...

[Geoff T]

This coin is a tough call. The crown does not overlay the shield so will check Davies on that but I think it is the second type. As to the veracity of the piece, very difficult to determine with these lead bits as has been alluded to above. Will do some checking tonight though.

Thank you.

According to Davies, all 1922 half crowns are Obverse 3 (large head/wide spaced REX) and either Reverse C or D. C is plain garter edge above "F" in DEF and the colon of DEF points to a pearl in the crown. D has the legend closer to the garter and the colon of DEF points to a space.

All George V half crowns up to the fourth issue of 1927 have 8 strings to the harp; thereafter it's 9.

Geoff

[Hussulo]

Thanks for taking time out to reaserch your copy Davis for Geoff.

From what you point out I would have to go with reverse D. Would you concur?

[E Dawson]

Yes, the crown shield seperation is quite obvious from the pictures - nice pics. those!

[Geoff T]

... but the colon after DEF doesn't point to space, whichever way you look at it.

Geoff

[Hussulo]

What would be your theory on it Geoff (I won't be insulted if you think its fake. In my book Numismatics is all about learning and listening as well as sharing opinions). Could it be a die trial before they used the type d reverse. A type of transitional piece perhaps?

[E Dawson]

I think it could possibly be a trial and maybe Royal Mint authentication might be a good idea. I would NOT condermn it based on its not being an exact Davies type.