Guest Jon Styles Posted April 7, 2004 Posted April 7, 2004 [URL=cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3905076225&category=3397]My WebpageCould anyone help me to figure out if this is a 1853 proof penny or not, because I have just bought it off ebay. It has a rainbow like tone and after close inspection, the letters on both sides of the coin have been doudle struck. Is is a very sharp strike and the field has a sort of mirror like shine to it. After close examination of similar copper coins, this coins dosent share many of the same characteristics. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE PICTURE HAS BEEN TAKEN WITH A FLASH TO HIGHLIGHT THE RAINBOW TONING.Many thanks for your help,Jon. Styles. Quote
Master Jmd Posted April 7, 2004 Posted April 7, 2004 i would say:reproductionorcleanedorfakeorext. rarebut im just a kid Quote
Chris Perkins Posted April 7, 2004 Posted April 7, 2004 Could anyone help me to figure out if this is a 1853 proof penny or not, because I have just bought it off ebay.I'd say it isn't a proof, I've seen them toned like that before, usually after being dipped.And double striking on close examination is common with those. Also the fields really don't look smooth enough to be a proof.I'd say it a high grade dipped coin that has re toned, and be very confident in that. Quote
Master Jmd Posted April 7, 2004 Posted April 7, 2004 as they say...you learn something every day Quote
Chris Perkins Posted April 7, 2004 Posted April 7, 2004 Normally, from the un-natural tone, often too bright, or with purples like that penny. Sometimes too orange. You just get the feel for a dipped coin.Harder to tell than a polished coin because with polishing you get hairlines. Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted April 7, 2004 Posted April 7, 2004 Are dipped coins worth anything at all? Quote
Chris Perkins Posted April 7, 2004 Posted April 7, 2004 Yes, but less than the ones that aren't dipped. It all depends on the individual coin. Personally I try to avoid putting dipped coins on the website, unless they are scarcer or I maybe purchased them in a collection.I always ask less than I would normally ask if they were naturally toned.Unfortunately here in Germany dipped coins are common. German collectors seem to put an emphasis on appearance, and not originality, which is what it should be about. Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted April 7, 2004 Posted April 7, 2004 Then how much, in your learned opinion, would this penny be worth?Thanks. Quote
Chris Perkins Posted April 7, 2004 Posted April 7, 2004 Well, the pictures were good enough, it was sold in good faith at a fair auction, so the market says it was worth £110.00 (what it sold for).Personally I would try to avoid it, but I expect I'd be interested at £40 or a bit more.But please bear in mind that is a dealer opinion and not a collector. Quote
custard1966 Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 This one seems to have reappeared againhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...8&category=3397When the original was listed there was another listed at about the same time with an almost identical description. Quote
Chris Perkins Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 Hmmm, it's that dipped coin again, with a very ambitious start price, and a reserve! Quote
william Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 There's a really nasty looking dipped sixpence on coinpeople (thanks to Sylvester! ):Ugly coin competition Quote
Emperor Oli Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 Eurgh! Did you buy it........or, shock-horror, did you dip it?? Quote
Sylvester Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 it came in a bag of junk silver from ebay, most were alright, a few had been dipped and had etchy surfaces, a small handfull looked like this one. The one above was the third worst, i gave the other two away in a trade.I still have the one pictured, and two that are 3 quarters of the way there. Quote
Emperor Oli Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 Wow weeeeee someone buy these for me!!!! Quote
Sylvester Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 That Edward VII one looks pretty good. (next to the Charles one) Quote
Emperor Oli Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 I'd like to see the obverse of that George III one near the George IV at the top, if it's as good as the reverse it'll be super! Im contemplating buying it......oo only 11m31s to go Quote
william Posted April 14, 2004 Posted April 14, 2004 Is your ebay name newmarket_lad Oli? You've won if it is... Quote
Emperor Oli Posted April 14, 2004 Posted April 14, 2004 No, I didn't bid in the end as I knew i was going to manchester today so I needed the money! Quote
william Posted April 14, 2004 Posted April 14, 2004 Did you go into Colin Cookes place Oli, and what did you buy? Quote
Emperor Oli Posted April 14, 2004 Posted April 14, 2004 I didn't go into his place I bought on the web. I can't remember exactly what I bought but I got the majority of the 1950s set and about six from the 1940s Quote
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