coinmagic Posted April 5, 2004 Posted April 5, 2004 I have a 2002 2p coin on which the reverse design is not in the correct position .it is almost at 180 degrees to the position of the head. I am almost certain tha it is not a faked coin as i use many "gimmicked" coins in magic tricks .has anyone got any ideas about this as i would have thought that it would be impossible for the dies to be out register in this way. thanks Quote
Chris Perkins Posted April 5, 2004 Posted April 5, 2004 Yes I would have thought the chance of that happening would be pretty slim, although the die itself must be secured someway, so that is can be taken out and changed for the next date or when it gets worn. The rev die on your 2p must have come loose and rotated a bit. Interesting. Do you want to sell it? Quote
william Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 What sort of price would you expect for something like that anyway? Could you post a picture of it, coinmagic-I would be interested to see it. Quote
Chris Perkins Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 Yes, it would be good to assess the grade, but any picture will not actually show us anything we've never seen will it!I could scan two sides of a coin and rotate one of them at 180 degrees, and put both pictures together!Unfortunately in this situation, and with such a new coin, a picture is about as useful as a chocolate fireguard. Quote
william Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 True. So what price would you expect for something like that, in say VF. I assume it's a fairly good grade, as it's pretty new. Quote
Chris Perkins Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 Error coins are strange, it simply depends on how much someone is willing to pay for it. With a not too severe rotated die error, I would expect to sell something like that sell for £10-20, posibly less.Serious errors like brockages, wrong metal, wrong blank, off metal strike etc etc are usually worth more. Quote
Master Jmd Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 wrong metal. the coins with the wrong metal are usually regarded as fakes. Quote
Chris Perkins Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 Not at all, many trial pieces are created in alternate metal for test purposes, and blanks that are the wrong metal have known to be acidentally struck. These do occasionally get into circulation.I have seen a bronze 1970's 5p and own a cupro nickel 1868 Halfpenny, the Halfpenny was a trail piece and the 5p was authenticated by the mint as an error. Quote
Master Jmd Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 fair point. I have a 2002 £1 coin that looks like it is made out of iron, and can be scrached with ease, i would say that that is a fake. Quote
Emperor Oli Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 Elizabeth i spelt with a "z" rather than an "s" Master J.M.D Quote
Geoff T Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 ...and "is" has an "s" in it Master Oli. Pots, kettles... Quote
coinmagic Posted April 6, 2004 Author Posted April 6, 2004 the 2p coin that I have described is in almost uncirculated condition (like a new coin just issued that you would get in your change). there is no way to show the error in a photo as I cannot show both sides together. i would like to find out a bit more about it before I decide to sell it. I would think that if one was stamped out there should be more somewhere out there , so keep looking.coinmagic. Quote
Master Jmd Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 i know how both sides can be seen at once...put a mirror behind the coin when you take the photo, then we can see both sides at once Quote
Emperor Oli Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 hahahaha touche, geoff, touche. And it's Emperor Oli I have my own little bastion of hell where the red "x" is......... Quote
Sylvester Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 have you seen the state of that new £5 coin? I'm beginning to agree with Oli on this one. Quote
Chris Perkins Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 There's no doubt he's a slipery character though ;-) Quote
mint_mark Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 You know, some people would much prefer that map of Europe. Just think, more German seaside resorts and at last a proper Swiss navy! Quote
william Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 I think snails and frogs will be happy as well! Quote
Emperor Oli Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 hehehe @ Master J.M.D, I destoryed France with nuclear weapons and now the fallout is blowing over to the Leipzig area to infect chris But german seaside resorts, really? fat german men in lederhosen eating sausage (i know its a stereotype but hey!) Quote
Chris Perkins Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 There are a lot of fat men in the West, lots of sausage and lederhosen everywhere, but generally in the East people are much trimmer. They eat better now than they did before the wall came down, of course, but most of them have retained their figures. That goes for the ladies too ;-)At least they'd have somewhere all of their own to put their towels! Quote
coinmagic Posted April 8, 2004 Author Posted April 8, 2004 i know how both sides can be seen at once...put a mirror behind the coin when you take the photo, then we can see both sides at once see photo Quote
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