Emperor Oli Posted March 19, 2004 Posted March 19, 2004 I've just got eight Farthings through and I'm in the middle of cataloguing them but I am faced by a dilemma - the majority of them are BU full lustre and I don't know what to value them at. Spinks only goes up to UNC and doesn't mention BU let alone full lustre. Can anybody help me out? The coins are listed below if you're interested1934 BU†1940 BU†1941 BU* * = Full lustre1947 BU* †= Almost full lustre1952 BU*1954 BU*1955 BU*1956 BU* Quote
mint_mark Posted March 19, 2004 Posted March 19, 2004 In my copy of Spink, 2001, in the section about grading milled coins (about 2/3 of the way through) it says for UNC ... "retaining full lustre or brilliance"... and as you say there is no BU.I think for Spink, UNC implies BU and I'm sure there is an explicit note to this effect somewhere in the book, but I can't find it... or maybe it was another book! Quote
Sylvester Posted March 19, 2004 Posted March 19, 2004 Well i think full lustre coins would sell at a slight premium. Unless of course they were dated 1672 or something and then there'd be one hell of a premium.But i don't know where you'd find the prices for these.The USians distinguish between red and brown (the first having lustre, the second without) in their catalogues, about time we followed suit i think. Quote
Emperor Oli Posted March 19, 2004 Author Posted March 19, 2004 The USians distinguish between red and brown (the first having lustre, the second without) in their catalogues, about time we followed suit i think.That's a good idea! Odd abbreviation btw Quote
Sylvester Posted March 19, 2004 Posted March 19, 2004 Just saying 'yanks' works for me!! i'd already typed US and i couldn't be bothered to go back, so i got inventive... Quote
Guest custard1966 Posted March 19, 2004 Posted March 19, 2004 Spink 2004, page 303 describes UNC as"... as issued by the Mint, retaining full lustre or brilliance...'a lot of people seem to overlook this when pricing.I think that for bronze/copper in particular, where lustre is an important factor it's a big jump from EF to BUNCJohn Jerrams book on Early Bun pennies usesEF, UNC 20% lustre, 50% lustre, 80/100% lustre as pricing pointsbut I suppose this would be difficult to fit into a general work like Spink. Quote
Emperor Oli Posted March 19, 2004 Author Posted March 19, 2004 Hmmm based on this knowledge I think a bit of revising is required for my collection! Quote
mint_mark Posted March 19, 2004 Posted March 19, 2004 Just for my own peace of mind, I have found the bit I was thinking of! At the end of copper sections, Spink says "Copper coins graded in this catalogue as UNC have full mint lustre". It doesn't say the same for bronze though... maybe it is just assumed?Anyway, it goes part way to explain why their prices are higher than everyone elses It gets really subjective for the higher grades... one person's attractive toning is another person's ugly blemish... Quote
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