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Following from last years Hammered Coins and now of a greater understanding.....

the measurements are in mm, the weight is 0.24 grms 

Ive sized it up against them that have already been identified and matches close to the hammered Half Pennies that I have...

Civi Taz Lon Don ...City of London.

Edward.......to be advise..

Any comments greatly welcome...

Many thanks "H" 👍🙏   

half penny 1.jpg

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If that is mm spacing then a farthing. Makes sense given the weights. Old sterling pennies were 1.4g down to 1g ish, so 1/4g =1/4 penny. Do you have any reference books? Just wondering because by Eliz.1 the penny was about 0.5g, but that had declined over a long period. Coin values are determined by the diameter of the inner circle because the outer one is too susceptible to spreading when struck.

Rules for the future:

1. Get a Withers small change book.

2. Get a Withers small change book.

3. Get a Withers small change book.

4. Get a Withers small change book.

5. Get a Withers small change book.

The surplus suggestions are to cover the 4 periods contained within the volume set, and allow me to book some copy and paste replies without having to make any other contributions. They cover Ed1 - Ed.2; Ed.3-R1; Henry 4-6;Ed.4 - Henry 7 and Henry 8-Commonwealth. You don't have to buy every one at the same time unless they are offering a discount to clear some stock. It is the best reference available and is regularly updated. Worse advise (sic) is available on ebay from some aspiring millionaire who found this in granny's change the other day, conveniently overlooking the moneyer Grunal. Hint. This is Dave Greenhalgh's name for coins he has made, (legitimately for the purpose of demonstrating hammered minting techniques).

 

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Hi Rob, I have a copy of the spinks, which is useful

I will look to improve on the lack of coin literature.... reading can be bit difficult and tiring....Withers small change book I have made a note of.

I have a feeling when buying the individual sellers knew very little of them like I did when buying them...since sorting out life I now looking to put things in order...best I can...

By chance is it possible to identify which Edward it is? many thanks "H"  👍

   

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Yes, as Rob says, a farthing not a halfpenny.

With the beaded inner-circle on both sides, as well as the Civitas legend, makes this class 28 onwards. 
The high crown, with that classic axe-like left fleur and, of course, the bust, plus the broken-topped angle-backed E, makes this most certainly a London Type 30 farthing of Edward II

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37 minutes ago, Coinery said:

Withers 30h Ref_1_Original.jpeg

Wow...this is amazing, I take all of this and add it to a paper square that I slot into the file pocket with the coin in question....once I have things in date order so end up moving coins along so the newly identified sits in date order....  👍this information is incredibly interesting and forever retained....Many many thanks it is greatly appreciated.  🙏

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