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Help would be most appreciated here. I have a nice example of a short cross penny but not sure on class or moneyer?

I'm told it's a King John and moneyer is Willem on London but that reverse legend looks way off to me - think CANT is the only thing I can make out which would imply Canterbury. I also think the class is later than a King John as indicated by bust type - a class 6 Henry III I think is closest but thoughts please as really have no idea about the moneyer! 

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HENRI ON CANT who only operated at Canterbury in 6b,c,d & 7a,b,c according to North. It isn't a 6b, so Henry III. Wrong style lettering for 6c & d. So class 7. Wrong portrait for 7a. Wrong beard for 7b except for 7bD, but here no flat topped A. So class 7bD or 7cA by my reckoning. If you exclude the flat topped A criteria, then 7bD would be a better fit than 7cA as it looks coarser than the Canterbury 7cA in North.

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Magnificent work, thanks so much!! 👏 Yes I can see that moneyer name clearly now, a big clue of course is the similarity of the moneyer's name to the king's name, should really have noticed that! 😯

Thanks for the precise sub-class classification as well, I would've just been happy with designating the main class but you went a few steps further! 

Kind regards, 

Joe

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