Roddy catalogue info required for Spring 2002

[Rob]

Has anyone got a copy of Roddy's FPL for Spring 2002, and if so please could you tell me if no.53 is the same coin as the attached? Or alternatively, DNW 68 lot 320, 12/12/2005 will do for comparison? If not the same coin, please PM me an image. TIA.

 

And also a copy of Sovereign for November 2000. An image of item 097 is required. Another CHST below, which according to Bull is very small, so could be this one.

Or this one

Or this one

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[Coinery]

In answer to your first question, here’s the DNW lot!

[Coinery]

Looks the same to me!

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[Rob]

I've already got that info, with this coin's provenance to date as

10.B R Noble 686, Gl 11/12/1975 P      SCA 157, 15/11/2001, lot 519 P      Rasmussen FPL 2/212, 2002 P      Richardson FPL Spring 2004/46 P      DNW 63, lot 326, 7/10/2004 P 13.74g      M Sherman 320, DNW 68, 12/12/2005 P      SNC 4/2006, HS2317 P

I'm currently working through Bull to verify the provenances listed, as there are plenty of duplicate listings in different types or wrongly assigned errors. Bull gives this one as being on Roddy Richardson's list Spring 2002 item53 @ £1550, but I'm missing that FPL in the library. All the other sales are verified with images.

The second coin I am trying to match is from the Sovereign FPL (Ilsley) for Nov. 2000, item 097 (£500). Again, a gap in the library. At £500 I suspect it's going to be pretty grotty, but there are a few candidates in the list already, pictured in the first post.

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[Coinery]

5 minutes ago, Rob said:

I've already got that info, with this coin's provenance to date as

10.B R Noble 686, Gl 11/12/1975 P      SCA 157, 15/11/2001, lot 519 P      Rasmussen FPL 2/212, 2002 P      Richardson FPL Spring 2004/46 P      DNW 63, lot 326, 7/10/2004 P 13.74g      M Sherman 320, DNW 68, 12/12/2005 P      SNC 4/2006, HS2317 P

I'm currently working through Bull to verify the provenances listed, as there are plenty of duplicate listings in different types or wrongly assigned errors. Bull gives this one as being on Roddy's list Spring 2002 item53 @ £1550, but I'm missing that FPL in the library. All the other sales are verified with images.

The second coin I am trying to match is from the Sovereign FPL (Ilsley) for Nov. 2000, item 097 (£500). Again, a gap in the library. At £500 I suspect it's going to be pretty grotty, but there are a few candidates in the list already, pictured in the first post.

Ahh, I see…I was responding to the ‘alternatively DNW 68 lot 320…will do for comparison!’ I assumed from that that you didn’t have the info.

Good luck with the project  

[Rob]

You have to be careful in cross checking as occasionally the image is compressed on one axis. I illustrated it using the consensus fit from the majority.

I'm just doing the usual thing of finding all examples so that I know what the competition is when it comes to finding something to tick the 'sword and 3 gerbs' box. They aren't rare, as I have 35 listed so far of both varieties (HIR & HIB/R), with a few more without corroborative images which may or may not be on the list.

Bull's all at sea sometimes, with 3 HIRs listed being HIB/R, 2 HIBs are HIRs and several references are duplicates of the same coin. That's why it is important to proof read and verify the written word.

[Coinery]

33 minutes ago, Rob said:

You have to be careful in cross checking as occasionally the image is compressed on one axis. I illustrated it using the consensus fit from the majority.

I'm just doing the usual thing of finding all examples so that I know what the competition is when it comes to finding something to tick the 'sword and 3 gerbs' box. They aren't rare, as I have 35 listed so far of both varieties (HIR & HIB/R), with a few more without corroborative images which may or may not be on the list.

Bull's all at sea sometimes, with 3 HIRs listed being HIB/R, 2 HIBs are HIRs and several references are duplicates of the same coin. That's why it is important to proof read and verify the written word.

100% agree…verification of the written AND spoken word a must at all times!

Do you already have an example earmarked? Looks like it’ll cost you a ‘pretty penny’ to acquire one when/if you do!

[Rob]

There are a few that would be acceptable. And an awful lot that aren't.

[Rob]

A couple more required from Richardson's Spring 2002 FPL -- items 54 & 55 are also Chester halfcrowns, so a scan of all from this mint would be good. TIA.