1784 Fourpence - help me grade!

[newheart]

Got this coin on our favourite marketplace(!) and I am having trouble as a newbie trying to grade it. I took a bit of a gamble on this because the seller photos were terrible.

The book I have (the standard guide to grading British coins) only covers coins from 1797. Is there a similar book covering the earlier period?

Here is the coin, as a complete newbie I would optimistically rate it VF/VF (obv/rev) but it does have abrasions on the reverse and to a lesser extent on the obverse. As a newbie, I cannot tell if it has been cleaned. Cost me the price of a decent meal so be honest.... (strewth the 1/2 mb image allowance is low!)

TIA, Pete

[argentumandcoins]

VF or thereabouts from the pics. Presentable enough coin if the price was right for you.

[Rob]

I would say the reverse was better than VF because you not only have the crown band detail showing well, but the ridges on the central lis fleurs aren't worn either. The obverse looks about the VF mark.

[newheart]

Thanks for the replies. Good to learn I got it about right and have not made a huge mistake :-)