Hello.. Newbie needs help

[Kenbo]

Hi Fellas...

Im New around here and just wanted a bit of input/advice...

I usually go for Victorian and Edwardian silver, my knowledge is very sketchy when it comes to hammered... but I was offered (and bought) this little lot outside of the Bay.. I bought a couple of mixed lots from a particular seller and he messaged me with this pic with a load of spiel like 'my granddad had loads of coins I've no I've what they are they've been passed down etc. etc.'

I didn't part with too much Wonga (less than £30) but when I looked at this seller's old sales (of coins) he clearly knows a lot more about coins than he was letting on with some very detailed listings.

Anyway.. here's the pic of what I bought... I haven't received it yet but the tracking says its at the local royal mail DO so probably be here Monday or tueday

Some of them look like genuine detecting finds but some of the others look a bit thick to be genuine hammys...

Any thoughts and views gratefully received

Regards

Kenbo

 

 

[Rob]

Just a glance says there are dodgy ones. Multiple William I bonnet types, St. Peter Sword types, Caesar's elephant, eight Edward I groats at 5 or 6K a pop! Yeh, right. The penny size thing having a cross with pellets in the angles has two with identical offset strikes. I'd hazard a guess and say they are mostly copies as a minimum quantity, with possibly all once you have them in hand.

£30 - you've been done, but with about £100K retail for that pile if genuine, you will know that anyway. One genuine example will be ok, but don't hold out too much hope.

 

Edited July 1, 2017 by Rob

[Kenbo]

Thank you Rob..!

What got me thinking was the brightness and thickness of the gold (quarter nobles??) just doesn't look righ... but  thankfully £25 quid doesn't smart too much

Here's hoping! :-)

 

Ken

Edited July 1, 2017 by Kenbo

[Rob]

Passed down coins that allegedly came from Grandad, that he found with a metal detector when looking down the back of the sofa, that revealed a wonderful valuable rarity that you wouldn't find in a field even if you spent a lifetime detecting, that just happen to be sold in a market that specialises in dodgy items, that is guaranteed to raise a fraction of the value of a genuine piece, that raises many times the value of the copy on offer, that has probably been worked on to disguise the fact it is a copy, that is offered by a seller with no interest in or past sales of coins, that relies on a person with enough optimism to hope they will pick up something genuine at bargain basement prices................ the latter never happens. This is standard ebay fayre.

Still, at least the seller is happy getting rid of things that would otherwise be impossible to sell. And he has been smart in putting them together as a bulk lot to save repeating the exercise. You would have been better off buying a genuine coin from a dealer that would have some resale value in the future. Virtually nobody will want an example of a museum copy.

[Coinery]

Pile of junk, sadly!

[craigy]

top left is the famous Edward I groat, nearly all the ones found by detectorists have been turned into brooches

[Coinery]

Yes, I noticed that! But in the context of the other pewter copies, and in light of the ed1 being commonly copied, I didn't think a £10k+ coin would be sitting amongst them? ?

Edit: and at least 6 or 7 of them at that! ?

Edited July 4, 2017 by Coinery

[craigy]

5 hours ago, Coinery said:

Pile of junk, sadly!

 

3 hours ago, Coinery said:

Yes, I noticed that! But in the context of the other pewter copies, and in light of the ed1 being commonly copied, I didn't think a £10k+ coin would be sitting amongst them? ?

Edit: and at least 6 or 7 of them at that! ?

just spotted the rest of them lol,   imagine finding that lot