custard1966 Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 The description for this one is pretty funnyhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...3913588675&rd=1I always thought it was Prince Albert and I never knew Victoria was a widower.And the pennies didn't change between 1860 and 1894 - so all those varieties in Freeman et al are forgeries.nothing funny about it, victorias bronze pennies started in 1860, and changed from the jubilee head to the older 'widow' head in 1895...There's no such thing as a Jubilee head penny.The Jubilee coinage started in 1887, but pennies were not included.I was pointing out the numerous errors in the description. Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 There's no such thing as a Jubilee head penny.The Jubilee coinage started in 1887, but pennies were not included.I was pointing out the numerous errors in the description. ok, sorry... Quote
custard1966 Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 There's no such thing as a Jubilee head penny.The Jubilee coinage started in 1887, but pennies were not included.I was pointing out the numerous errors in the description.ok, sorry... No problem Quote
Sylvester Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 Jmd why does your signature worry me? Not more competition! I know many people have told you, that you should really specialise but it seeming appears that you just get drawn in by other coins.Perhaps, because you are newer to the hobby you are not ready to specialise yet, i think you should play the coin field and buy what you like regardless of what denomination it is. It will not only help you to get a broad (if not shallow) knowledge of British numismatics (why shallow? well you could write what i know about copper coins on a side of A6 paper in size 20 arial font!)But not only will buying coins of all shapes and sizes (as your budget allows) be benifitial to your knowledge, but it will also help you in the future to decide what denominations interest you, and what denominations don't!One bit of advice though, don't buy substandard damaged/cleaned coins, try and buy them in the highest grade you can comfortable afford, or buy the ones with good eye appeal. Thus when you do decide to specialise down the line (if you do!), you might hopeully be able to sell off the coins you have accumulated that no longer fit in with your new goal. And selling off the coins you buy now will help kickstart your special future collection.Trust me, been there, done that, bought the t-shirt and sold it to Chris! Many collectors might learn by reading the book, but i must admit i've learned alot through fieldwork too (i.e buying and selling coins), i've been stung, shot, burnt and whatever else can go wrong in the metaphorical sense, but they are all learning experiences, and on quite a few occasions i've even made a bargin/profit. This when taken into account with the enjoyment i've gotten out of numismatics i must admit it's all be worth it! Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 (edited) Hmm...i do only collect pennies, but after seeing your virtual tour it has made me really want a nice 1700's maybe 1600's sixpence...i will probably not fully collect, but i just would love to have one...if you read the my interestssection of my profile, you wil notice that at the bottom it says that i may wonder off from pennies...but no need to worry sylvester; i wont be big competition to you Edited May 22, 2004 by Master Jmd Quote
Sylvester Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 I'd advise that there is nothing wrong with occasionally going out of your usual scope every once in a while (or with me very often!), the beauty of buying a coin that doesn't fit into your collection (in you case pennies), is that it's nice to have a bit of variance once in a while, but it also means that if you ever have to sell any for any reason, you can sell off the oddities and keep the main collection intact! (hopefully) So i'm collecting three areas;1) Early Milled Sixpences (this is the main collection)2) The Monarch collect (one of each, and sometimes a few example of each, bought basically on eye appeal often regardless of denomination) i've got two Edward I ones and soon two John ones, the least fave of each will be retained for a rainy day and then traded off.3) James II half guineas.The latter two collections are not the main one and thus can be sold off at any time if i need the readies at any time. Clever eh? (it does work! you don't make a profit unless you are lucky or very patient [i'm neither] but it preserves some wealth, that if it had been in money form you would have spent on something else unrefundable anyhow) , plus any loss you do incur can usually be balanced out by the enjoyment of owning the coin. Quote
Sylvester Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 Wow this guy is a tough grader! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...3913146448&rd=1I would have said that was at least Fine! Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 I'd advise that there is nothing wrong with occasionally going out of your usual scope every once in a while (or with me very often!), the beauty of buying a coin that doesn't fit into your collection (in you case pennies), is that it's nice to have a bit of variance once in a while, but it also means that if you ever have to sell any for any reason, you can sell off the oddities and keep the main collection intact! (hopefully) precisely Wow this guy is a tough grader! I would have said that was at least Fine!i think he said in good condition because he is probably not used to the proper grading system...you would not really expect a non-numismatist saying fine condition, but they would probably say good condition... Quote
Sylvester Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 i think he said in good condition because he is probably not used to the proper grading system...you would not really expect a non-numismatist saying fine condition, but they would probably say good condition... Well that one went over your head Quote
Sylvester Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 please note the... was the important part of my comment on his grading standards! Quote
Chris Perkins Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 One for you custard1966....This one is not only VF, it also has lustre!http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...3913161912&rd=1I need say no more. Quote
custard1966 Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 One for you custard1966....This one is not only VF, it also has lustre!http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...3913161912&rd=1I need say no more.Oh dear.I've seen other items from the same people, all ridiculously graded.And what do they mean by guaranteeing that the one you'll get is better than the one in the picture?At least they didn't add - 'A must for the serious collector' - which always annoys me because it never is. Quote
Chris Perkins Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 The thing is, do these people actually seriously wonder why thier 'VF' coins don't sell for actual VF prices?? I bet they must think that Spink coins are well over priced!Thank god they have pictures. Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 You have got to see this:My WebpageThis is described as the Ext. rare mule of beaded/toothed borders! Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 You have got to see this:My WebpageThis is described as the Ext. rare mule of beaded/toothed borders! hehehe...that one's funny Quote
Chris Perkins Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 You have got to see this:My WebpageThis is described as the Ext. rare mule of beaded/toothed borders! Hmmm, not a bad grade, but both sides look toothed to me.I've told the seller too! Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 26, 2004 Posted May 26, 2004 but both sides look toothed to me. come to think of it, it does look toothed on both sides i wonder why no one has bid Quote
william Posted May 26, 2004 Posted May 26, 2004 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...bayphotohosting*Cries* Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 26, 2004 Posted May 26, 2004 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...bayphotohosting*Cries* i hate enamled coines Quote
Master Jmd Posted May 26, 2004 Posted May 26, 2004 So do I, and look at all those brooch ones! yes, what a waste... Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted May 26, 2004 Posted May 26, 2004 I hate them too! They just seem so ugly to me. Quote
Emperor Oli Posted May 26, 2004 Posted May 26, 2004 i hate enamled coinesI'm going to rally to the cause and stand up for enamelled coins! The majority of them are enamelled tastefully and artistically and further highlight the work of the engraver who had produced such a masterpiece. The second one in especially is nice - look at the silver poking through on it; truly superb. QUOTE (william @ May 26 2004, 07:43 AM) So do I, and look at all those brooch ones! yes, what a waste... The brooch ones are no waste at all. It's not as if they are hugely valuable now, so what's your point? They look like contemporary mountings so it would be like us mounting a £5 Coronation anniversary coin. The mounted coins were normal to them as the £5 is normal to us. I also don't like brooched ones but I wouldn't call them a waste: I just don't see the point in wearing coins. Quote
Chris Perkins Posted May 26, 2004 Posted May 26, 2004 And there is a demand for enamelled coins, you can see that by the current bid. And from personal experience I know they sell pretty well. They may technically be ruined as coins, but in doing so, someone has created something else, something even more individual than the coin host. Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted May 26, 2004 Posted May 26, 2004 I can see that. However, I just cannot see the appeal with them. I guess different people have different interests. Quote
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