I bought a couple of crappy coins from e-bay as gap fillers last year sometime...  a victorian farthing and an earlier george one. I have bought 100s of coins from ebay in the past and never expect the grades to be quite as advertised. The victorian one was advertised as EF. The picture was very blurry and all I could tell was that it was shiny. I didn't expect it to be EF at all and I won the auction for about 4 quid including delivery. I did however expect it to be nearly fine or VG maybe... or even poor. I didn't care about the george one which was really worn but the date showed. When it arrived it looked as though it had been cleaned with a sander or a file or something. Maybe put under shoe and skidded on down the high street. It was shiny because it had been polished but had lots of wear and had huge violent scratches and gouges all over it - none of which were visible on the blurry photo.  . 
 
	I was in a bad mood that day and only gave the guy about 1 star for product description on the feedback - I have only ever given non positive feedback about twice ever. I never give bad rep usually but I was annoyed. He sent me a snotty note about giving him neg feedback and how I was an idiot to expect a EF coin for the price and he was not happy about my rating of his sale over just £4.00. I calmly told him that the term EF has a specific meaning with coins and collectors but maybe I had been hasty in giving him neg feedback if he didn't know what he was talking about. He accused me of dishonesty regarding the condition saying it was at least VF when it left his place. He was the one selling a worn out coin polished up with a scourer with blurry photo and calling it an EF grade so he shouldn't talk about dishonesty. I never usually give bad feedback, even if the coins is crap...  and the bloke was right that the coin was very cheap. I wouldn't have minded if he hadn't offered an estimated grade and it turned up worse than the pic, or if the coin was just polished and nearly a fine grade, but his claim of EF annoyed me. The huge scratches and the massive wear were so blatant and ugly and did not show up at all in the photo and no one in there right mind would describe the coin as so.    
 
	Normally I have very good experiences when buying old coins from e-bay. Sometimes there are some real shockers though as you guys have shown here.