Thanks for replyThe mouth does curl downward ? It's tough to differentiate ob 5'6'7 obverse 7 has curls or clump of hair at the back of the neck... visible even on worn specimens... obverse 5 has a scalloped pointed middle top leaf... also visible on worn specimens many thanks, i have a lot too learn i see. There was me thinking it was all about number of berries and leaves, position of head !