Gollum

I'm not up on all this stuff, but can't you use the sale of goods act in the uk ads well, I thought I read somewhere that you have up to 6 years with that to claim.

I agree it looks like a fake which has been accepted into the market and retailed by an honest dealer.Oh dear. This is a bit of a nightmare isn't it ... Downies stated 2 or 3 times that if I obtain a certificate that it is a copy, from IBSCC, within 12 months even, they will refund the seller who should refund me etc etc So, has anyone tried/heard of IBSCC (see email from Downies above)? To be honest I'm no longer sure that if they passed it as genuine I would be satisfied! International Bureau of the Suppression of Counterfeit Coins http://www.coinscatalog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223

I don't know much about fakes, but one thing that concerns me is the number of genuine coins that will sooner or later over the years come to be classififed as possible fakes and then in order to ensure sellers do not soil their reputations become definite fakes, is it going to become a case of only those currently held in collections of the elite collectors as I call them will become the only genuine coins about at the cost of all others.

Sheesh, I thought for a moment there you were gonna say "Windex".... I gotta stop watching them greek films !

Sweet Mary mother of Jesus! For the first time since I graduated, I glad of my Chemistry degree! Everything from acid baths to re-plating! And on the subject of verigris - two lines... "Rub with a fine cloth which has been treated with copper soap. Copper soap can be obtained from drugstores." ============================== Having now googled 'copper soap', all I'm coming up with is a fungicide... I wonder if that is what they mean?! Think I might just save myself £10.80 ;-) Does it say anything at all about a neutral preserver for coins? I just can get my head around the acidic olive oil thing at the moment, there must be an even less acidic 'grease' we can 'smear' on our coins? I've got my eye on a couple of books, I mean to get mine for £10.80 INCLUDING postage! I wonder , what about copper ease for brake pads ?

I wonder if some sellers also clip old coins to get the extra silver.......

who is it, Friar Tuck !.

Having had a look at this thread and Colin's site as well as a few others, I have a question. Forget you are coin collectors, and then explain to me how or why this "coin" is declared as a coin and why it is then denominated as a farthing, I have seen no sign of it having the "farthing" on it in any of the pics I have seen.

we went metric long ago Peter, do you mean cm's ?

Still coming down here !. maybe I should bag it and sell it to the local junkies.

maybe an inch or so in newbury berks, rather disappointed actually.

Oi !, I collect tanners and thruppences and shillings. Then anything else.

Erm and are you trying to tell us something ?

Considering the old way of putting coins on the eyes of the dead, I wonder how many "rare" coins are currently in graveyards waiting to be dug up. Anyone got a spade ?.

There is usually a bit of an adrenaline rush but I think that is more to do with not trashing the coin with your hammer, pliers or chisel (whichever tool you prefer) Kango gun

I think if I was to ever to be pushed to slabbing it would only ever be those ultra rare ( 1 or 5 left ) endangered coins that would be lost to the world through damage or erosion.

sounds a bit like the difference between a wife and a girlfriend !.

Big smile, Gollum, you can certainly turn on the emicons :-) Your lucky, I have some adult ones too ! I thought it best not to post them.

I hate them. They are boring, they take the warmth of holding a coin in the hand away.

well how about it stands for victoria hanover, google says that i worth money......

what I meant Debbie or am trying to explain is that over the years people or cultures used to form letters in differing styles, if there is alrge difference between them I am unsure, but starting from the date of the coin and working forwards with a google search may well throw up the stylised version of the letter H over the years, this would give you a means of identifying if it was a H. http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Search/?kw=letterh

Judging from the date of the coin, I would be more inclined to take a look at the style of writing and the kind of lettering from that date on other things and then take it from there.

Unfortunately not, Mr Garry would of loved it but his wife is tearing their marriage apart for her family in France.... Again. Looks like it may soon be a park bench in the snow if it goes on.