Sylvester

i once had a bag of coins that i inherited, and like a bad apple the whole lot had become covered in the stuff. If they are making physical contact then yes definately. Not touching but in a close environment, then the infected coin will continue to corrode, but this might alter the chemical makeup of the entire micro environment, and thus potentially affect the others near by, kinda like a chemical experiment. Not sure how minute those chances are... but i should imagine it's a possibility. Anyhow the verdigris is the least of the problems, tin corrodes much faster and has progressive corrosion (like iron does). Unlike aluminium which has protective corrosion.

Does nobody understand sarcasm? i think that was what William was getting at! You know how serious these yanks are...

I wonder if those air tight plastic coin capsules (a la proofs) will suffice for this?

Ah yes I'm a lurcher! you mean lurker?

Here's a question. I'm just currently in the process of buying a very nice 1684 tin farthing. (the portrait and what not is crisp and of a very high grade), but the edges show considerable corrosion, and the copper plug is a big green. But with this series if it ani't one thing it's another. Now i'm just wondering how's the best way to store this? I don't usually allow any coins with verdigris on them into the coin cabinate as i'm worried about it spreading, however small the chances may be despite the fact they are not in physical contact with each other. Question is will it be safe in there? And will it help to prevent further tin corrosion?

Is he? I've never seen him on there before. i take it you missed my gold coin give away on coinpeople the other day then?

Is he? I've never seen him on there before. yep he his.

hey my mother got a nice change find the other day, a 1977 5p piece. Yep collecting from change is just that interesting! I've got some nice £2 coins out of circulation today too.

no i was just wondering what the was for?

well i suppose we'll soon see...

You never know Chris you never know! Maybe it's someone who's got some experience in the coin world and that was one of their early forgery attepts. Perhaps they are working on a whole load of fakes aimed at collectors. Proofs and whatnots, but perhaps they thought to try a few business strike ones first?

i a word, no. The only way to effectively change over is to introduce the coin and withdraw the bill. But they haven't done this, and unfortunately there are many people in the treasury department that are ardent dollar bill supporters. (they probably make a profit from it, as they usually have something to do with the federal reserve that prints the things). Also it's not uncommon for the seldom seen half-dollars to be mistaken by cashiers as dollar coins, even when the lettering states quite clearly 'half dollar'! how dumb could you get? Also having three 'circulating' types of dollar coin doesn't help. The big old ike dollar (size of a crown, last minted in the 70s) occasionally makes the rounds. The Susan B Anthony mini-dollar of 1979 onwards, and the golden sac dollars of 1999 onwards. The public are totally confused.

hmmm? Erm i just hada thought, i wonder if they were trying to pass the fake £2 coin off as a silver Proof? hence the gold coloured paint?

Can you imagine a £1 banknote! Or a £2 one for that matter.

Except the US of course! Who for some reason just won't let the dollar bill go. They've tried to reintroduce a dollar coin twice already but totally failed. And that's my two pence? dunno sounds odd, i don't use it myself but i do know it was common pre-decimal for people to say 'two penn'orth' (i.e two penny worth) at least where i live anyhow! I can't speak for the South!

Indeed Rendal Ingram sells them! You can buy blanks that are both parts and with the edge lettering/milling already done! But why the gold paint? If they hadn't done that then it might have passed as the real thing? (unless they were trying to hide something)

You know, i'm not actually sure, what i thought they had done was to mint the coin in cupro-nickel and to paint the outer part with gold paint. But looking at it, they might have gone the whole hog and actually produced a true bimetallic coin. I think they must have used some blank dies! Probably already had the edge lettering and milling? Although the D in shoulders looks poorly executed when compared to the real thing, but the rest are good!

HAVE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE LINK ABOVE!

i could try for nothing, but that's what it might be for... NOTHING!

You should see the edge lettering! Fantastically crafted.

Yep! See here... http://www.coinpeople.com/forums/album_per....php?user_id=36 It's well labelled! See what you think, the scan didn't highlight the gold paint look quite as much, but the obverse lettering, particularly around the DEI bit...

Scarily well Chris, i notice it straight away because of the gold paint look rather than the brass look. The edge lettering is superb, the coin looks totally real apart from the weak struck obverse lettering, and the gold paint look. It was obvious to me, i knew what it was as she handed it over to me, but i was more interested in examining it thoroughly than refusing to accept it.

Also please be aware of the increasing number of £2 coin forgeries, it appears they are on the rise. I got one myself the other day.

Yes, I don't know if you know but it was Isaac Newton who said it. I think it was in a letter to Robert Hooke when he said "If I see further, it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants," Ineed it was, and Mr Newton was also behind the silver reconage of 1696 and the elimination of the hammered stuff. Also master of the mint for several years during Anne's reign. Very fitting i thought.

William, The first bit was German and asking for a cup of tea minus milk and sugar... The French bit was stating 'i don't speak French!' (in fluent French nonetheless!) Fun hey? Syl.