PINMAN

I must confess,that i'd be quite interested to learn about all the different varieties that exist,no doubt that it would be an interesting read.At the moment,i'm only aware of the more common differencies.....such as a beaded or toothed border,found on an 1860 Penny,or a normal or low tide,on the 1902 Half Penny (the obvious stuff). Thanks for the book suggestion,i'll have to drop Mrs Pinman a hint,especially since Christmas isn't too far away,now .

I believe it to be an F-67....... Obverse 6, Reverse H, Rarity R-12......... A scarcer variety of the 1874's Just goes to show,how totally useless the books which i rely on,are,with only three different varieties being mentioned.....1874 / 1874 H / & 1874 with later (older) bust.Makes you wonder if the seller was aware of this fact,too,since there was no info refering to the details that you have kindly provided,within his/her auction. I really must invest in some better books,at some future point.Thanks for your assistance,regarding this coin.

Please have a look at the following Penny,which recently sold on Ebay.......... Link .......and then try and come up with a reason,why it sold for so much.I've looked in a couple of (up to date) books,and neither of them value this particular coin,at anywhere near the price that it actually sold for,considoring it's grade (it even has a few tiny edge knocks,too).

The description for this auction,makes me laugh.Not exactly a great pic,but good enough to see what sort of state,the coin in question is. Link Slightly worn ?

I expect to have plently of spare time,tomorrow,so i'll have some further attempts at producing better quality pics of this coin.I'll also try again,to determine which issue it is (thanks for the pointers regarding that). Could the polished appearence,just be down to the reflection of the camera flash,reflecting off of the coin ?.I have tried grabbing some decent pics without the flash,and had no joy whatsoever (way too dark)....although i admit that i could brighten them up a tad,via a paint program (didn't really want to resort to that,though). Having browsed through two different coin books,the lowest value for either issue in an uncirculated state that i could find,was £40.Due to that,i thought that a starting price of £9.99,would be okay.After reading the above comments,the pic was at least partly to blame,for this coin not getting any bids. Thanks to all for your response,i appreciate it. Chris,i'll respond via a PM,in a few moments time.

Hi guys....i need two bits of info,regarding the above coin,if someone would be so kind.Firstly,is this a second or third issue Shilling ?. I tried selling this particular on Ebay,recently,and it didn't attract any bidders.Wasn't too sure what price to start the auction off at,so i decided to begin it at a mere £9.99,and let the bidders decide it's value.This really is a stunning UNC example,even though my photography skills may not suggest this. I honestly thought that i'd have no problems selling it,especially since the auction starting price was so low...or what i'd class as low,anyway. Did i really overprice such an outstanding coin ?.I just can't understand why it didn't sell.

Well i've had a ton of personal stuff to deal with recently(family problems),and that's prevented me from plonking myself down in front of the keyboard,for any real length of time.Hence not having got around to doing any research on this particular token/coin,so far.Hopefully the situation will change real soon.

Hi Peter,thanks for the link.Lovely token...certainly puts my example to shame.Still,as mentioned earlier on,i only parted with a few pence when i purchased this particular token,so i haven't exactly lost out. Nice to finally see a copy with such detail .

Hi you were right the first time, I was hoping someone could make the images visible to all rather than have to click on the link as I cannot for some reason do this at my end. Oh,okay,thanks for clearing that up.I only removed the image afterwards,since i had second thoughts,that perhaps you meant something else.Anyway,there are several places on the net that will host images for you.If you need a good reliable one,just let me know,and i'll point you in the right direction. Just follow the instructions given by Hussulo,and you can't go wrong. When you upload an image to one of these places that hosts images,just copy the link,once the upload is complete,and then paste that into the window which will pop up,when you click on the tree image to add the pic to your post.It may sound a little hard,but trust me,it really isn't.

Hi Colin.My original post(before i edited it) was only about the comment from basecamp,regarding the upload of images to this forum....i at first thought that he merely wanted the image instantly visable,rather than having to click on the link to observe it.So i did actually do this for him,and then thought that perhaps that's not what he meant,so i removed the image lol.I'm not certain what he meant,by his request.

Just thought...this probably isn't what you meant lol. Please ignore my above post....made a bodge up,and now can't delete it.

25-30 years ago,i'd have agreed 100% with that statement,but now,well,i'm not so sure.I'd like to believe that it's true....perhaps you are right (or is that just wishful thinking ? ) .I would imagine that there's a reasonable amount of honest/trustworthy people about,but even so,i still reckon that there's a lot more bad pennies out there now,than there was a couple of decades back,or so. I've never requested Special Delivery before,when it's not been an option.Certainly something that i shall correct with some of my more expensive purchases in the future,though.Regarding the extra postage costs involved.....it would probably be easiest,if you requested an updated invoice,before paying for the item in question.Just a thought .

I think we've all been guilty of running down the postal system,at some point.But to be fair to them,we must remember the huge amount of mail that they deal with each year.Okay,i'll admit that they aren't exactly my favourite people either,when they manage to lose any of my mail,but even so,i still couldn't deny the fact that they do a fairly good job overall.People have moaned and whinged about the recent price increases,regarding packages & parcles,but weren't they losing money on these things,before the costs went up ?. Anyway,i've had yet another reply from this particular seller,and i just had to let you know what was said,just to prove that there are still in fact,a few remaining decent people left on this planet of ours. "Hi Steve, Yes token undamaged, I believe the jiffy bag got stuck in the sorting machine and probably not found until the maintenance of the conveyors took place, I have had similar instances before. Coin I will send to you in the morning, Have it on me for all the hassle it caused you.PS I am not a dealer just have been a serious collector for over 40 years and still do, Although Ebay gives me the oppurtunity to sell my surplus and gives me funds to buy what I fancy." To be honest,the token hasn't really caused me any real grief at all,especially as he was kind enough to give me a full refund (via Paypal) within 6 hours of my first contact with him. No idea why it was eventually returned to him,as in the past(on the rare ocassion that something's been damaged in the post),everything has still been delivered to me,still,rather than going back to the original senders address.....very odd. The amount involved with this transaction,was £5.No,not a huge sum....but how often does a complete stranger,give you five quid for free ? .

Here's an update to this transaction.Just received the following message from the seller. "Hi Steven, Hampshire token that went astray, arrived back here yesterday, Packaged damaged in transit with note of apology from the post office." I'm so glad that he's got the token back,since any little doubt that he may've had,that i might've been trying to diddle him,has obviously gone.Even though i'd personally never do such a thing,he's not going to know this for sure. It took best part of a month,for him to get his token back.Why it's taken such an excessive period of time,for this to happen,is beyond me. Shall i ask him if he got another free book of first class stamps,for the inconvenience caused

As you obviously know,with some of these Ebay auctions,you only get a choice of either first or second class mail.I must admit though,that you normally only find this,with the lower value stuff.Problem is,as a buyer,i've often purchased items in the £5 - £20 range,so i've taken countless risks,with the vast majority of these transactions,since there's often no option for Special Delivery. I'd be doing myself a couple of favours,by concentrating on the more expensive stuff,instead of aiming mostly for the lesser valued items.Firstly,i'd lose the element of risk....and secondly,the more expensive sought after coins,will obviously be a far greater investment.I do buy higher quality stuff,but not so often. As a seller,i rarely encounter any problems,since i seldom sell anything.

Obviously,the only way to go,if your sending off anything of any real value,is to send it via Special Delivery.But it seems that your buggered if the coin in question,has next to no value at all,since your not going to be keen on splashing out an extra £4.00,if the contents are only worth a few quid...you could even find yourself out of pocket no doubt,in some cases. The only possible way around this problem,has been suggested by Chris........ Quote"lie through your teeth...if it goes missing then how are they ever going to know the package contained a coin?"Unquote. Thanks to all for your response,it's appreciated.

I recently bought a coin off of Ebay,which went missing in the postal system...thankfully,the coin in question,wasn't an expensive one.Anyway,the seller and i were discussing the Registered post option,and i received the folling messgae from him. "Hi, I can assure you I have on many occassions claimed from the Post office when coins have gone missing, And all I have received is a complimentary book of first class stamps as coins or any sort of money is NOT protected, And the maximum compensation is £27.50 for anything else, I have suffered more losses with recorded delivery than First class stamp only, It is simply a con." The bit that i personally find hard to believe,is the part about coins or any sort of money not being covered via Registered post.Although i've bought quite a few items from Ebay,i haven't actually sold all that much,and on the rare ocassion that i have,i've opted to use just the standard post,since the value hasn't ever been too high....hence not knowing what the score is regarding coins and the Registered post option. Anyone care to enlighten me about this stuation ,please.BTW,i did get a full refund for the coin that went astray,i'm just curious as to if his info is true or not.

Chris...thanks for the info,it's much appreciated.As you will know from one of my other threads,i hadn't paid any attention at all,to the info at the top of the pages until recently.There's two titles which i intend purchasing,at some near future point.

Yep,i couldn't agree with you more.I do intend to purchase a decent book at some future point,to assist me with this.I have got this years "Coin Yearbook",but as you probably know,that mainly just covers the mintages and current values,which is obviously handy,but not really everything that i want.There is some other info in it,but nowhere near as much as i'd like. Another part of this hobby that i personally find exciting,is the hunt.Ebay is the easy option(and the expensive one too lol),but isn't nowhere near as much fun,as discovering something good at your local Bootfair or charity shops,even....it just isn't the same,in my opinion.

I did an image search earlier on,which did bring up another example of this particular token(William IV 1837 if i remember correctly).I didn't really pay all that much attention to it,since i was only trying to find an example of the exact date that i have aquired. I was just hoping to find a little info on it,if possible.I realise that it's probably not going to be worth all that much(especially in such a low grade state),but no doubt that the value,has got to be greater than the 50p that it cost me.

Thanks for the info,Chris...although it's probably well known common knowlodge to the vast majority.Geography & history,never have been my strong points.Finding some info on this particular token,will no doubt be much easier now .

Still far from perfect,but here's some pics,that are certainly better than my last attempts. And the reverse

Just realised that i've posted this topic in the wrong part of the forum .My apologies for that,please feel free to move it,if you so wish.

Hi guys.I recently acquired this early Victoria Scottish penny token pictured below,and wondered if anyone on here,could point me in the right direction,to any available info on it,and also,if anyone has any idea,as to what the value might be.Any help would be much appreciated. As you can see,my picture taking skills have improved,although i haven't quite reached the David Bailey standard,yet lol.

I've only recently got back into this hobby(around the same time that you started),and have mainly gone for the Victorian,and post Victorian stuff.My collection mostly consists of silver,although i have gone for a few choice copper items too. To me personally,i believe that the most important thing about this particular hobby,is that you have fun doing it.To do that,your collection doesn't have to contain countless valuable items....so long as your having fun,that's all that matters. Regarding Tokens.....don't really know all that much about them myself,either,but there certainally seems to absolutely thousands of real interesting ones out there.....out there,as in Ebay lol.Not really the best of places to go to,to add to your collection,but it's an easy option,although an expensive way of doing it.It's quite surprising,just how much some of those Tokens can fetch.