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Copper & Bronze Pennies: Judging by dealers prices lists I'd say there's been a steady increase - particularly in the top grade stuff. I think E-bay shows smaller increases, if any - there's plenty of lower-grade stuff about and more buyers than sellers. I found this one interesting http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-VICTORIAN-1849-P...1QQcmdZViewItem Although it IS a rare date, I was surprised at both the bids and the reserve. I paid £65 for one (less than fine and not as good as this one admittedly) about 4 years ago. It'll be interesting to see what Spink come up. I often wonder to what extent they set the trends rather than reflecting them.

one for sale on E-bay, right now http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PECK-ENGLISH-COPPER-...1QQcmdZViewItem

Thought id have a look and see if he had bad feedback from the winner of the bid....Guess What?? Coin delivered WAS NOT coin pictured. BEWARE!! Buyer neutron56 ( 157) 04-Aug-05 08:35 8319375842 Reply by maxbax0: beware he bids then complains about the items 04-Aug-05 14:03 Lokks like it wasn't his day!! Jim And he paid £80 for it A painful lesson.

What's going on here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/POLISHED-1P-COIN-COL...1QQcmdZViewItem ? (Nice to see they'll accept a 'personnel' cheque)

Hi Gary, well spotted - I hadn't noticed that before. My 1834 (which is the one featured in collectors coins 2005) has exactly the same flaws. Peck makes no mention of any variants so maybe they're all like this. I don't have an 1837 but I've checked my 4 1831s and they all have the same flaw which is that the rightmost lower serifs on the Ns are missing. I would expect if anyone had spotted any variants it would be Micheal Gouby (http://www.michael-coins.co.uk/GBcopper1d1.htm) but he doesn't mention any.

I'm going to correct myself: comparing with my own coin, I'm now happy that that's the 1/2 penny numerals. It's harder to see on the first set of pics posted, but the second set is conclusive. The real clue (apart from the size) is the tilt to the 2.

I'd have to agree with Chris. I can't find a picture online and am not at home to check with my coin, but that looks like a set of worn standard numerals

Hi Keven, Price will depend, as always, on condition. As a guide I paid £470 for one in Fine condition last year A very similar one went for £620 a few weeks before that (so I think I got a bargain). There are probably only around 15-20 of these in existence and they're a 'well-known' variety and much sought after. Bear in mind that if you sell to a dealer you'll only get around 2/3 of what he thinks he can sell it for and if you sell at auction or on E-bay you'll have to lose a percentage to them. Still, it'll be worth a few bob Hope this helps.

This is monumentally suspicious http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...8319375842&rd=1 There are three pictures none of which seem to be for the same coin And he shows a picture of one of the rarest pennies, 1863 with die numbers.

I always opt for Special Delivery then there are no excuses.

This seller really annoys me. He sells fairly rotten stuff all of which is described as either magnificent or extremely rare - which of course it isn't. And don't get me started on his abysmal punctuation. Up to now he's only been charging pennies so it hasn't seemed so bad, but now he's gone right over the top :- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie..._PcY_BIN_Stores

There are some pictures here which might help http://www.michael-coins.co.uk/cp_1858.htm

The precise value will depend on whether the the final date numeral is over another number (3, 6, 7, 9 have all been noted) and whether the date numerals are large or small. But you're probably talking about £80 - £100 in UNC, assuming it's not a rarer type. Hope this helps.

I just received Galata's latest catalogue. They have 4 Pecks for sale - all second edition - ranging between £100 and £115 pounds

I use this company who provide specialist insurance http://www.hwint.com/hi/uk/ hope this helps

I've been continuing to collect penny prices and have some very interesting ones from a private sale (1863 with die numbers etc).

thanks very much custard! Will have to think about it though, £150 is a lot of money to a teenager...and I've got to think about the opportunity cost. Happy to help It's worth giving these people a call http://www.galata.co.uk/ I got my Peck & Freeman from them. They don't have any listed at present, but they would be a good bet to find one eventually. The list I found above was a book finding service - I just searched for Peck at the first site I found - there are plenty out there so it might be worth searching through a few more.

Found a list here http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st...053498_2:53:111 hope this helps.

Hi Douglas, I've come across these as well. the issue is discussed here http://www.24carat.co.uk/silverpennies.html hope this helps,

Chris has prepared a list of the well-known rareties (along with much other useful info) here http://www.predecimal.com/key_dates.htm

Hi Alastair, The 1960s pennies are extremely abundant even in absolutely mint state so those aren't of any great value. Amongst the others I didn't spot any rareties and they aren't in good enough condition to have any significant value I'm afraid.

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The fact that you are free to make such criticism - and wouldn't be in China - suggests that your comparison is somewhat unfair.

I always admired Athenian Democracy, and John Stuart Mill. So by rights i am quite a Liberal, or Libertarian if you prefer. Unfortunately, the Athenians didn't include slaves or women in their electorate.

Hi Jon, The rare 1877 has narrow-spaced date numerals The one pictured is the common, wide-spaced date.