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Henry v 1413-22 Quarter Noble Spink 1757Var. 1.71g Obverse: HENRIC REX ANGL FRANC within treasure of arches, stops of various shapes. Trefoil to left and mullet to right. Reverse: EXCVLTABTUR IN GLORIA (“He shall be exalted in glory”). Cross with lions in angles: lis in centre. Mullet to the right was to distinguish the kings new mint master Lewis John. Henry v’s first mint master. Appointed to the role on 14th April 1413. The trefoil was used as a periodic privy mark to identify a specific minting window die variation or administrative shift within the tower mint. The Annulets (small circles) placed around the arches served the exact same high-utility purpose as the ones next to the central shield or to top. They acted as a subtle internal code to identify the exact sub-series, die variation, and specific mint run. The “1757 Var” Designation: in British numismatics “1757” refers to the ID in the Spink standard catalogue of British coins. The “Var” (variety) means it features a distinct die error or sub type -specifically, a spelling variation, in the reverse Latin legend that reads EXCVLTABTVR instead of the standard EXALTABITVR, (“He shall be exalted in glory”).

Looking carefully at this tiny coin, it definitely has six thick strings with possibly a lozenge or raised pellet shaped stop at the front of the strings. Could this be of significance! It looks lozenge shaped but through two loops on top of each other it’s impossible to make the shape out perfectly.

Not my coin. This one has quite a bit of doubling to the harp and shield but sill only the five strings, so possibly as coinery says maybe the strings were added after the shield, really difficult on a coin so small though.

I believe the slight double strike is definitely a possibility, I’m sure the penny should have seven strings, so six strings on the penny is an odd one. I suppose when cutting the die on something so small is quite easy to make the mistake, like you say coinery anything is possible. I have had a good search but can’t find any half’s with the six strings so hopefully another one will come along 👍 Thanks for the input guys.

Has anyone come across the half penny having six strings to the harp. I believe it should only have five, the strings are also very thick possibly a double strike but looking at the rest of the harp I’m not so sure.

Yes I think you are correct MrT just took some better pictures in natural light, possibly a die crack starting from the first A going through the T and ending on the last A.

Plucked out of the soil this morning.

Found this beautiful coin today. just having a good look at it tonight and noticed the A in GRATIA is a little strange. Any ideas ?

Slightly better image of reverse.

Not sure if it’s an unlisted coin but would welcome any thoughts on the B in the reverse legend, I’m not sure if the B is over B or maybe F.

Just looked at my commonwealth’ half penny this has the little v marks and tangs. I could do with about 50 half pennies of the same mint mark to see if a good pattern could be made. I would think if someone was making a multi die and punch all of the coins would face the same way, looking at most Elizabeth half pennies the cross carries on to the edge of the coin, I’m thinking this could have been a scribe mark to keep each die being cut level to the next. More of the same same type coin would be needed to see if the crosses lined up as well as the tangs lining.

I’ve searched for Elizabeth half pennies that are double struck or have defects from the single blow of hammering as I’m sure there must be. But I can’t find any ! There are going to be defects from the process of punching many out of a sheet of silver but most of the half pennies I can find are reasonably good.

We still use this Process for punching out very thin plate on a turret press.

I think it would be difficult Jerry getting the four blows on something so small to line up and maybe time on these low value coins would be a priority. Thanks Coinery, I’m sure they would have been stamped on a strip or sheet of silver and the tangs held them together until they were placed over a bucket and removed, they would be so difficult doing them individually. I’ve placed my three coins with the tang and the piece missing from the coin, I think they would line up quite well with no Wastage of silver.

Hand, tun, wool pack mint marks. all in reasonable condition. I wonder if any dies still survive for these tiny coins, would love to know the minting process for these as they all have tiny spurs on the sides looking like they were possibly hammered in strips.

Thanks again. Old Weste were my thoughts as soon as I held the coins. 👍 I like them so they are staying with me.🤠

This coin came along with the gold twenty dollars, 1881 Morgan Dollar, Not a rare coin but looks in lovely condition, the milling to the edge of the coin is sharp enough to shave with. Only problems I can see are a few bag marks. Views on a grade of my coin would be much appreciated. Looking at other dollars I would place it about MS 63 to 64ish.

Thanks, Nice to know as it’s mine now 👍

Thanks, much appreciated.

Hi all Is this coin the real deal? A friend has this for sale for his Dad he said it was bought in the states in the early sixties It looks a very nice coin for its age. The weight and dimensions are perfect. Is there any chance of grade and a rough price guide. thanks for any help.