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Mike, I'll add this to the rarest pennies site - can you supply links ?

[Little coins big prices]

I hope it wasn't tragic - he was suicidal for a while after his wife died.

[If only]

14 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

I hope you avoided Captain Pugwash

And Seaman Staines.

[If only]

10 hours ago, blakeyboy said:

the wonderful Noggin the Nog

But there was always the dark side.......remember Nogbad the Bad !

[Stuff to Make Us Laugh]

Bookshop display with a sense of humour:

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13 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

I really appreciate provenance, but it is depressingly scarce, even on rare coins. 

Oh to buy a coin with a list of buyers, sellers and dates, with receipts. A dream. 

Absolutely, auction houses nowadays don't seem to value it or think that buyers might be interested. The 1933 penny is the only example that I can think of that attracts that level of information, but it is a bit special.

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I'd like to see the before/after pics, please.

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8 hours ago, terrysoldpennies said:

It actually looks like a plume of smoke rising from an old coal fired steam ship going over the horizon

It looks more like Donald Campbell in Bluebird to me.

[Lockdales auction 18-19/1/23]

2 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

Thanks in advance

link (to page 1)

That link works fine for me. Clicking on the > at the bottom of the page moves to the next page.

[Good morning all]

Welcome to the Forum. As a copper & bronze man, you may find my websites of interest.

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32 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

Who is this "Groucho" you speak of?

Probably Groucho Marx who famously said that he didn't want to be part of any club that would accept him as a member !

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I emailed him to let him know we remember him and got this reply:

"Hi Richard,

Happy New year to you too.

 

Having sold the bulk of my collection, I'm really not involved in the collection of pennies any longer so haven't visited pre-decimal forum.

 

If anyone has a specific enquiry or question about a coin I sold, then I'd be pleased to help though.

 

Happy collecting!

 

Best wishes,

 

Steve"

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See:

https://rarestpennies.wordpress.com/1933-f209/

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8 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said:

Whatever happened to Accumulator?

Stephen Etheridge ? I think he gave up collecting and sold his collection through Colin Cooke (Copthorne collection) in 2016.

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I hope you're right - have a great Christmas.

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On 12/21/2022 at 10:29 PM, 1949threepence said:

Do we need a new book (Bramah) to raise awareness?

My own comments for what they're worth:

Many of Bramah's "varieties" such as the 2a (small curved marking to the left of the foot of the 4) could be regarded as trivial (and almost certainly non-intentional) alterations to a die and not truly therefore a recordable variety in Peck's eyes. The intentional overdates are listed by Peck. There are comparable examples in the bronze range that Michael Gouby lists but Freeman either ignored or mentioned in footnotes.

Secondly, once the baby boomer generation has passed away, the generation that never uses cash, paying for everything with cards or phones, won't be remotely interested in tiny differences in something they never use or see the point of.

And our coin collections will be worthless..............

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On 12/16/2022 at 10:05 PM, Peckris 2 said:

I wouldn't class a Taylor restrike as a fake - they're in a class of their own. As you and Rob say, he used original dies, warts and all, and sometimes in impossible pairings. It's almost as if the ghost of Boulton had come back to life.

I've tried to capture as many versions as I could:

https://headsntails14.wordpress.com/george-iii-patterns-restrikes/#top

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2 hours ago, mrbadexample said:

I'd be willing to pay up to £300 for a convincing fake made from a genuine penny of that series.

Done !

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2 hours ago, oldcopper said:

Fantastic coins.

Absolutely 

https://headsntails14.wordpress.com/victoria-official-pattern-obverses-reverses/

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There is an indescribable feeling of owning a particular coin - any coin. Even if it's locked away, modern photographs are sufficiently good as to provide visual access at any time.

Some people may prefer to spend their money on holidays, or expensive cars - I prefer to buy coins - I can't really describe why and I don't expect others to feel the same way or understand. That's what makes us all different.

[24 Hours in Police Custody]

I think I would prefer to be deliberately injured rather than accidentally killed. Should the sentence reflect that ?

[24 Hours in Police Custody]

18 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

But where is your evidence that the majority of the public believes this?

It's certainly not any evidence of a majority but the posted comments demonstrate an awful lot of support:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/give-adam-white-justice

[24 Hours in Police Custody]

 

3 hours ago, DrLarry said:

The thing is the law can only deliver a sentence appropriate to the crime.

I would love to see a system that allocates punishment on an incremental basis, i.e. every successive crime acknowledges previous crimes and becomes more and more punitive, culminating in something truly dreadful. There seems very little deterrent in today's system. If every crime is simply judged on its standalone "merits", there is no recognition of the career criminal and the drain on society that he/she represents.

[24 Hours in Police Custody]

I originally posted this because of the disgust that I felt with the lack of punishment dealt out to the serial offenders. I also felt that Adam White's punishment was unduly harsh in the circumstances although it wasn't really feasible that he would have been completely exonerated. A much smaller punishment (suspended sentence perhaps) for him and a much harsher punishment for the burglars would have been more acceptable to the general public in my opinion.