Bronze & Copper Collector

Yes, it's my coin. ... Puchased it for my penny and halfpenny collection. ... Am open to trades if it can fill a gap in my collection. ....

Blank obverse of the uniface lead impression of the 1965 half penny reverse.

Here is another 1865/3 halfpenny

Very clear and obvious overdates.... Can't really be too sure about the others from images only....

1865/3 halfpenny 5 over large 3

These are my 2 examples of the halfpenny overdate.. 1865/3 halfpenny 5 over small 3

Even the TPGs are far from perfect.... And you're PAYING for it....

The Ultimate in specialization... Seriously though, there is nothing mad about a project like this. Early American coinage from half cents to gold has been broken down to various dies and combinations thereof. Books have been published on the various denominations that have become the definitive works on the subject. I, for one, wish you the best on this project and can only hope it can be completed and possibly published..... Much as I would hope that Richard would consider publishing his website as an invaluable reference book. The next incarnation of a long line of respected references....

In that case, "Welcome to the asylum"...

I find him to be ever the optimist.....

Indeed we do....

You will find that the essential standards as enumerated in the book are applicable to any coin being evaluated..... What this book (or any specialized grading guide) does, is list specific points to look at when grading a specific coin. The essentials, as I stated earlier, are applicable to any coin....

A good library is behind every successful collector....

It's a one of a kind reference that should be in your library.. The prevalent advice of buying the book before the coin is most certainly applicable here.... you HAVE the book already, why give it away when you might need to refer to it next week.... No on knows for sure, but I could cite numerous instances when I have disposed of something and needed it shortly after... I'm not saying to keep everything and throw nothing away. items that can easily be replaced or accessed can be disposed of, but something as small and as useful as this book should be kept.. Casee in point, although most US collectors use TPG's, the tpg's use as a basis the standards set forth in the guidebook grading US coins. The information contained within that book, as well as your book in question, can be extrapolated to apply to coins not covered in the guide... I respect my references no matter how rarely I access them, as I know they. are an invaluable source of information...... Although I use Peck I sometimes need to refer to Bramah for further information.. I have Batty, use it rarely, but I like to know it is there if needed....

It can be said that the very act of placing a die in the press indicates intent by definition of the word intent... The crux of the issue is whether the original intended use of the die was how the die was ultimately used and whether that is the only determination that should be considered as well as how much latitude should be acceptable in making that determination..

Swinging On A Star Lyrics Would you like to swing on a star? Carry moonbeams home in a jar? And be better off than you are? Or would you rather be a mule? A mule is an animal with long, funny ears He kicks up at anything he hears His back is brawny and his brain is weak He's just plain stupid with a stubborn streak And, by the way, if you hate to go to school You may grow up to be a mule Or would you like to swing on a star? Carry moonbeams home in a jar? And be better off than you are? Or would you rather be a pig? A pig is an animal with dirt on his face His shoes are a terrible disgrace He's got no manners when he eats his food He's fat and lazy and extremely rude But if you don't care a feather or a fig You may grow up to be a pig [instrumental-first 3 lines of chorus] Or would you rather be a fish? A fish won't do anything but swim in a brook He can't write his name or read a book To fool all the people is his only thought Though he's slippery, he still gets caught But then if that sort of life is what you wish You may grow up to be a fish And all the monkeys aren't in a zoo Every day you meet quite a few So you see, it's all up to you You can be better than you are You could be swingin' on a star

Very true, read definition 1...... mule1/myo͞ol/ noun 1. the offspring of a donkey and a horse (strictly, a male donkey and a female horse), typically sterile and used as a beast of burden. 2. a hybrid plant or animal, especially a sterile one. 3. a kind of spinning machine producing yarn on spindles, invented by Samuel Crompton (1753–1827) in 1779. 4. a coin with the obverse and reverse of designs not originally intended to be used together.

Or the recent USA dollar coins with the 25 cent obverse???

What about the 1967 New Zealand 2c Bahama Islands 5c Mule???

Amen To that..... A Rose is a Rose is a Rose..... by any name....

I suppose anything NOT issued by the mint, or issued WITHOUT official mint authorization could be considered a fantasy piece, although several such striking have entered the mainstream and/or become legendary. .... Thinking USA, the 1913 Liberty Nickel for one, was never an official striking..

Wouldn't those be better categorized as Fantasy pieces....

Can't tell for sure, but depending upon the date, I would suspect that they are 2 variants of the same reverse. .. G Read note 4 regarding reverse G in the article. . Some reverse G's are missing rocks to the left of the lighthouse, mainly from 1861 to 1863.

Although the status of the 1860 & 1862 coins could be debated ad naseum (depending upon how mule-headed the debaters are) there is no doubt that the Jamaican obverse penny is a mule by any definition of the term.

An excellent reference for halfpennies is Iain Dracott's article on Victorian bronze halfpennies as well as Malcolm Lewendon's cd with images based upon the Dracott article....