colliewalker1 Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 I have come across this Septimus Severus Silver Denarius "stunning EF" AD 194 coin. It looks as though it has just come from the mint in Ancient Rome The 'Buy It Now' price is £59- I know I'm only a beginner but to me this seems too good to be true - or are Roman Coins always this cheap?http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=3930046594 Quote
Master Jmd Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 "stunning EF", AD 194...That is one of the reasons that i do not trust eBay...even though i have bought from the seller (curlietailz) before with no probs. Quote
Emperor Oli Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 It's nothing to do with "trusting" eBay - it's the sellers in whom you must place your trust. They have given high definition photographs and you should grade the coin yourself, and only use the grade they give as a guide. Also, there is no reason not to trust a person with so high a feedback rating.I know nothing on Roman coins, so I don't even know if EF can be applied, but it looks in stunning condition. Also, it looks like it was previously gilded, as there are hints of gold around the obverse edge beading, between 9 and 12 o'clock. The figure on the reverse also has a gold haze around the edges.Buy it if you like it! Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 I must admit, I love the portraits on ancient greek coins. Quote
Sylvester Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 it looks like it was previously gilded, as there are hints of gold around the obverse edge beading, between 9 and 12 o'clock. The figure on the reverse also has a gold haze around the edges. I think it's the way the toning has reflected from the light (be it camera light or scanner light). Quote
colliewalker1 Posted September 21, 2004 Author Posted September 21, 2004 On checking the Ebay site I find that there were NO bids on this coin and nobody took up the 'Buy It Now' option.I'm very surprised that not one Roman coin enthusiast emerged to buy this one.....The reference to GREEK coins in some of the replies here puzzle me Quote
Emperor Oli Posted September 21, 2004 Posted September 21, 2004 An Athenian Owl, what HPJ and Syl were talking about Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted September 21, 2004 Posted September 21, 2004 (edited) Beautiful owl, especially in such high grade! Edited September 21, 2004 by Half Penny Jon Quote
welshguy Posted October 6, 2004 Posted October 6, 2004 Regarding the original posting where it is said that the coin appears to have been just minted in Rome...I have 2 coins......Faustina ll. AD 161-180 Septimus Severus. AD197-8Dug them out of the ground myself in Shropshire....Both equally as good as the coin depicted on e-bay. Quote
colliewalker1 Posted October 7, 2004 Author Posted October 7, 2004 Regarding the original posting where it is said that the coin appears to have been just minted in Rome... What an exciting find - do you often find coins like that. Any chance of posting images here of the two you mention Quote
welshguy Posted October 8, 2004 Posted October 8, 2004 I will do scans sometime over the weekend and post them.They are the only 2 roman silver I have found in 15yrs, but have a nice Charles 1st penny.Henry Vlll Groat 1529 in stunning condition.Had 3 Coins of Edward 1st and 2nd, but they went for Treasure Trove...Valuation Committeeawarded me £35 for the 3...Half went to the farmer...Now on display in Swansea Museum.A nice George 1st. Shilling 1723. SSC.& several other hammered and early milled coins, but quite worn. Quote
welshguy Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 Scans attached......Coins not cleaned, as found,& scanned thru plastic of protecting coin holder but you can get a good idea of condition. Quote
colliewalker1 Posted October 10, 2004 Author Posted October 10, 2004 Scans attached......Coins not cleaned, as found,& scanned thru plastic of protecting coin holder but you can get a good idea of condition. These coins look in remarkable condition bearing in mind they are uncleaned and scanned through plastic.The Treasure Trove Valuation Committee must have been feeling in a generous mood when they awarded you the magnificent sum of £35 for the Edward I and Edward II coins........ I am obviously a 'heretic' as regards cleaning - I like cleaned coins( ) although these surprisingly, don't look particularly in need of it! Quote
Master Jmd Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 I am obviously a 'heretic' as regards cleaning - I like cleaned coins( ) although these surprisingly, don't look particularly in need of it! You obviously mean cleaned hammered coins, or coins that have had their dirt removed...you would not like a coin that has been highly cleaned from Fine to BU! Quote
Chris Perkins Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 Tut tut JMD, how can you clean a coin from Fine - BU ? Even the 'lustre' on a highly polished fine coin is different to the lustre on a BU coin. Quote
Emperor Oli Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 highly cleaned from Fine to BU!If I could polish some of my coins from fine to BU, I wouldn't think twice! Quote
Master Jmd Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 Tut tut JMD, how can you clean a coin from Fine - BU ? Even the 'lustre' on a highly polished fine coin is different to the lustre on a BU coin. I did a little test you see on a Fine, or Almost VF at best, 1965 penny...i used some bronze cleaner used for antiques and left it in a capsual...now the coin looks as good as new with the same amount of same coloured luster as my other BU pennies...It probably depends on the cleaning method Quote
Emperor Oli Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 It can't look as good as new if it was a fine. Polishing doesn't restore detail, it just makes it superficially shiny. Quote
Master Jmd Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 It can't look as good as new if it was a fine. Polishing doesn't restore detail, it just makes it superficially shiny. I didn't say restoring the detail, i saidsame amount of same coloured luster as my other BU pennies... Quote
Emperor Oli Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 You said it looked as good as new.... Quote
Master Jmd Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 You said it looked as good as new.... i meant as good as new with the lustre......never mind Quote
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