John Short Cross Penny

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Hi,

Recently purchased this:

Short cross bust 5b. Regular S, circulated pelleted curls, cross pattee as initial mark on reverse. HVE ON NICOLE.

Can anyone tell me anything about the monyer ?

Regards

Mark

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Here's the file

[Rob]

He could have been French given that the French version for Lincoln was Nicole. Alternatively, it should be borne in mind that the language of the nobility and court was Norman French following the conquest, so this may be normal for the period. Not a clue about HVE the individual though.

In the Mass sylloge, Lincoln has 4 moneyers for Va, Alain, Andreu, Hue & Iohan. 4 moneyers for Vb, Andreu, Hue, Rauf & Tomas, and 2 moneyers for Vc, Andreu & Hue. These all write the signature NICOLE in all three classes.

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Rob,

Thanks. Can you suggest some really good books that catalogue saxon and medieval coins.

Regards

Mark

[Rob]

North is a start, followed by the numerous articles in the BNJ and the various sylloges of the SCBI series. There are specialist works on small sections/mints/reigns etc such as Mossop's Lincoln work, Sadler's Ipswich mint volumes etc. As with all publications, no one reference gives all the answers. The list is very long indeed, so narrowing down the field of interest may help giving guidance.

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Rob,

Thanks much appreciated.

Regards

Mark

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Rob,

Just coming back to this. So HVE could be HUE? Medieval is not my thing.

Regards

Mark

[Rob]

HVE is HUE. I can't think of an example prior to G2 (1740 halfpenny) where U is used to replace V.

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Rob,

Recently purchased copies of SEMC. Are the others that you mentioned easily available? Can you point in the right direction?

Thanks Again

Mark