different "Q" in "QUI", crown 1818 LIX

[Q.E.D.]

Hello,

I just noticed that a letters "Q" in "QUI" in the legend of my 1818 LIX crowns look different. One looks similar to "Q" on 1818 LVIII crown and the other looks like in 1819 and 1820. I could not find any info on this in ESC or Davies. Are there two types of reverses known for this crown or is it just a flaw?

[Sylvester]

Hello,

I just noticed that a letters "Q" in "QUI" in the legend of my 1818 LIX crowns look different. One looks similar to "Q" on 1818 LVIII crown and the other looks like in 1819 and 1820. I could not find any info on this in ESC or Davies. Are there two types of reverses known for this crown or is it just a flaw?

It's not one i've come across but it's certainly a possibility, since there are quite a few varieties in this series.

Just check to see if the garters are different widths because 1819 coins also have varying widths for the garter.

Can you post pictures?

[Q.E.D.]

Thank you, Sylvester. Are these varieties listed anywhere?

Here is a picture (the best I could get, but I think it's more or less clear).

[Q.E.D.]

Another one

[Sylvester]

Thank you, Sylvester. Are these varieties listed anywhere?

Here is a picture (the best I could get, but I think it's more or less clear).

It looks to me like that Q is struck over another Q? I presume it's not double struck, if it's just that letter then you have a possible Q/Q?

Other members opinions?

The 1819 and 1820 varieties are listed in the Coincraft 2000 catalogue, but apart from a rarer 1818 with an error edge no other varieties of 1818 are listed.

I'll have to try and find my cull grade George III crown and have a look at the 'Q', to see what a normal one looks like, as these coins aren't really my speciality.

[Q.E.D.]

There is small tail there that hints Q/Q, but that's probably a flaw. What I wanted to point out is that Q in the first picture is the same as Q of 1818 LVIII crown and Q in the second picture is the same as in 1819 and 1820 crowns (I have several of those and Q is really the same except for this double tail flaw).

My guess is that design was changed a bit during 1818 and crowns after that got this "bulky" Q. I don't really have enough material to confirm that 1818 LVIII crowns have "fine" Q but I that's my guess (the one that I have does).

Obviously, I would like to hear opinions of the experts.

[Peckris]

There is small tail there that hints Q/Q, but that's probably a flaw. What I wanted to point out is that Q in the first picture is the same as Q of 1818 LVIII crown and Q in the second picture is the same as in 1819 and 1820 crowns (I have several of those and Q is really the same except for this double tail flaw).

My guess is that design was changed a bit during 1818 and crowns after that got this "bulky" Q. I don't really have enough material to confirm that 1818 LVIII crowns have "fine" Q but I that's my guess (the one that I have does).

Obviously, I would like to hear opinions of the experts.

That's my 1818 LVIII - unfortunately my scanner only goes to 1200 dpi.