Unusual coin

[Guest henharrier]

Need help! I have been shown a coin that is the size of a modern penny but a lot thinner. On the front are the initials CR or GR with a crown above.On the reverse is a thistle with letters travelling around the edge.It is difficult to decipher the letters but they look to begin A N G. The date is difficult to decipher - I think it ends 72 but not convinced. I believe it to be copper as there are signs of oxidisation.

Any guide would be appreciated.

[scottishmoney]

Sounds a lot like a Scottish bodle or 2d, but will need to see an image to nail it down to whether it was Charles I or Charles II. These are usually pretty heavily worn, they circulated into the 1750's as farthings after the 1707 Union.

Here are some images of Scottish bodles:

Charles I

This above is a contemporary counterfeit of the first coinage.

Posthumous coinage, ca. 1650.

I don't currently have a bodle of Charles II imaged yet.

[Guest henharrier]

You are brilliant. The image at the bottom is exactly the same as the coin I saw. Does that mean it should be Charles I

[scottishmoney]

Technically speaking Charles I, but they were struck in 1644, 1648, and then in 1650, so could be one of the posthumous coins. Scotland was not part of the Commonwealth, but only influenced to some extent by Cromwellian troops crossing the borders from time to time to remind the Scots that autonomy gained by the Civil War and execution of the King had limitations.

[Guest Panterex]

Hi!

Is this coin some sort of error coin or something?

Victorian ONE PENNY 1862

Regards,

Panterex

[Guest Panterex]

There's another one, It's made of lead (wich is wy I am not certain it is a "true" coin)

I thought it could be an error coin, but... made of lead.... Fake? hmmm...

anyway, it's up to you:

[Guest Panterex]

So does anybody have any opinions about those 2 coins above? Never mind this lead coin, tell me something about ONE PENNY, is it the error one? If not, how do you explain those 2 reverse letters?

Anybody?

Regards,

Panterex

[HistoricCoinage]

The two letters on the obverse look like a standard countermark to me, i.e. someone's initials have been put on it after it left the mint.

[Guest Panterex]

Nice idea!

But still, it doesn't explain to me why these letters are reversed, or may be you can explain it to me a litle bit better, please?

Regards,

Panterex

[HistoricCoinage]

My thoughts are that someone, perhaps a schoolboy or a lover, put the initials of a partner or himself on the coin for the novelty factor.

I have sold many cartwheel pennies which have had initials stamped onto them and found out that it was the initials of a market trader, it could have been some form of advertising for his clients.

Either way this is definitely post-mint.

[Guest Panterex]

Good man, HistoricCoinage!

Thanks a million!