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Somebody posted this coin on onother form. Is it a fake or a pattern? 1802 cartwheel penny otr two pence?

The person more interested in the inscription but is 1802 not an impossible date for such a coin and they are normaly dated on the reverse. So anybody any thoughts? maybe the date has been etched on?

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The '1802' has been added by the person that engraved the advert name around the king's head. It's a normal 1797 coin in awful condition, engraved in 1802!

(and from the bust type, it's a penny)

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The '1802' has been added by the person that engraved the advert name around the king's head. It's a normal 1797 coin in awful condition, engraved in 1802!

Cheers Chris,

Kind of what I susspected, so that was probably the date he made the inscription. Thanks for the conformation there were chartwheel patters made but they were for 1/4d etc and non made in 1802 am I correct?

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Yes, I think there are some 1798 pattern coins and earlier dates too, plus all kinds of later proof after strikes in various metals. I think the 1797 coins were still being struck in 1802, but always with the 1797 date. I'd have to check Peck.

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Yes, I think there are some 1798 pattern coins and earlier dates too, plus all kinds of later proof after strikes in various metals. I think the 1797 coins were still being struck in 1802, but always with the 1797 date. I'd have to check Peck.

Thanks Chris,

I'v got Peck I'll check later on.

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They even went to the lengths of replaces the actual date with what look like flowers! Interesting.

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