Henry VII Penny & Half Penny....Clipped .....1485-1509

[Citizen H]

....Ah!?!?! so after another long time spent with Spink these could possible be Henry VII .......? (if so my first)

the Crowns on both coins have what looks like a Single Arches  

Again It could be wrong on both counts but after trawling through the Edwards nothing seemed that it was a likely option.

I think the 1st coin has been clipped 

the second may be a Half Penny........... 

any guidance would be great appreciated 👍

 

[Citizen H]

the two coins are as follows.....

The arched crown is Henry VII, an early issue before the sovereign pennies come in.

The other one is possibly Edward IV's Light Cross and Pellets Irish coinage - these have a quatrefoil centre and are virtually always struck on too small flans, so with most or all of the legend missing as here.👍

[Eirestan]

The crowns on both look like Henry VII. The larger i assume is a penny. Looks like the Tun mint mark and Canterbury mint.

The lower one could be a half penny but i cannot glean much more. The cross ends on the reverse on both coins are definitely Tudor.

[Rob]

1 hour ago, Eirestan said:

The crowns on both look like Henry VII. The larger i assume is a penny. Looks like the Tun mint mark and Canterbury mint.

The lower one could be a half penny but i cannot glean much more. The cross ends on the reverse on both coins are definitely Tudor.

More obviously there is no sign of a quatrefoil on the reverse to make it Irish (or possibly episcopal English). Don't worry about the small flan reference as many coins were clipped, focus on the detail you can see.

Edited 19 hours ago by Rob

[Citizen H]

Ah! errrrmmmm, this was a lash up on my part, 3 hammered coins in need of confirmation, I had an email confirming 2 of the hammered are... 

(The arched crown is Henry VII, an early issue before the sovereign pennies come in.The other one is possibly Edward IV's Light Cross and Pellets Irish coinage - these have a quatrefoil centre and are virtually always struck on too small flans, so with most or all of the legend missing as here. )

so this related to the lower 2 coins, the 1st coin I had down as a Henry VII Penny, Clipped 1485-1509. Eirestan mentions the mm. Tun so 1493-95 Canterbury... wow... it amazes me that chaos and confusion can be easily resolved...by them in the know....Happily these are now put to rest.....its been a long day.  🙄