x 3 Shillings James I 1604 to show

[Citizen H]

hello all, 

there's 3 of probably the best of my coins, 

So following on from recent conversations these are Shillings........

I will do one at a time so hopefully not bombard the forum...

they have come with notes but I only now got to look into things, 

this is mentioned as, James I, Silver Shilling, I.M Trefoil (key over crown... could this be the Mint Mark?)

I did try but couldn't find and further information so any web site worth visiting

All and any input, value guide greatly appreciated, many thanks "H"  

[Coinery]

Mintmark is the key, as you say, making it 2nd coinage and dating it 1609-10

It looks like the 5th bust to me so S2656

In that grade I’d say £40-£50

[Citizen H]

38 minutes ago, Coinery said:

Mintmark is the key, as you say, making it 2nd coinage and dating it 1609-10

It looks like the 5th bust to me so S2656

In that grade I’d say £40-£50

Hello Stuart, aha so now a date correct for this one, many thanks for your help, I think I miss typed by mentioning I.M Trefoil... this is on one of the other coins the one showing is "Key over Crown"........ is there by chance a page that give a guide to the Mint marks ? ....... all good knowledge to have,

many thanks "H" 

Edited January 23 by Citizen H

[Coinery]

1 hour ago, Citizen H said:

Hello Stuart, aha so now a date correct for this one, many thanks for your help, I think I miss typed by mentioning I.M Trefoil... this is on one of the other coins the one showing is "Key over Crown"........ is there by chance a page that give a guide to the Mint marks ? ....... all good knowledge to have,

many thanks "H" 

I can’t see any evidence of this being “key over crown,” it just looks like a plain key to me (maybe a close-up of the obverse key would clarify?).

I don’t know of any web resource, you might have to start buying a book or two. Here’s the mint marks for James I taken from the SCBC,  which would be a good start! You can buy this for around £30 + postage from a dealer on here if you want one?

https://rpcoins.co.uk/collections/catalogues-s-z/products/coin-of-england-2025-pre-decimal

Edited January 23 by Coinery

[Citizen H]

2 hours ago, Coinery said:

I can’t see any evidence of this being “key over crown,” it just looks like a plain key to me (maybe a close-up of the obverse key would clarify?).

I don’t know of any web resource, you might have to start buying a book or two. Here’s the mint marks for James I taken from the SCBC,  which would be a good start! You can buy this for around £30 + postage from a dealer on here if you want one?

https://rpcoins.co.uk/collections/catalogues-s-z/products/coin-of-england-2025-pre-decimal

Awesome, the ref of Key over crown was written by the previous... I thought it was the Key was above the kings crown???  this page of mint marks is a real eye opener,  I certainly be looking into this further, again Stuart, many thanks "H"    

[Coinery]

This is an example of crown and key over crown on gold!

Edited January 23 by Coinery

[Citizen H]

interesting.... I was able to enlarge the photo, definitely shows a key with no crown... so the previous owner was incorrect.....but at least this one wasn't a copy....  all the best "H"  

 

Edited January 23 by Citizen H

[Citizen H]

This is the second James I, Shilling

Mint mark,  Thistle 1603 - 04.

How does this check out, many thank "H"

 

[Coinery]

Yes, 1st coinage shilling with bust 2 and thistle mintmark S2646 👍

[Citizen H]

2 hours ago, Coinery said:

Yes, 1st coinage shilling with bust 2 and thistle mintmark S2646 👍

In this grade would you say £40-£50? many thanks "H"

[Coinery]

48 minutes ago, Citizen H said:

In this grade would you say £40-£50? many thanks "H"

£50-£70 depending upon who’s around on the day! You have to appreciate it’s really hard to price ANY coin. Even in big auction houses, coins can go for double or half their values.

I think the best way to value coins in these grades is to carry out a search on eBay - not to see what crazy prices people are asking, but to click on ‘completed items’ in the filter and see what people have actually been prepared to pay for certain types and grades. It’s an eye-opener!

[Citizen H]

This is the third one

James I, Shilling

Mint mark,  Lis Or Trefoil ? 1604 - 05 ? 

Any help will be greatly appreciated

 

 

[Coinery]

You have the correct date, making it 2nd coinage, 3rd bust, mm Lis - S2654

Here’s a couple examples of what I was mentioning earlier re completed item on eBay

[Citizen H]

This is really interesting... I'm beginning to realise that a lot of mine have been rubbed to the point of why they may have been boot fair available in the 90's... I did buy some gold coins from a dealer so they hopefully will be a better place of buy back then........ 

I do also have What still may be Maundy money to show...

 

All the very best "H"

[Citizen H]

Ive just noticed that one letter looks double stamp?

could this be correct? 

[Citizen H]

On 1/23/2025 at 7:54 PM, Coinery said:

This is an example of crown and key over crown on gold!

I was looking at Guineas.... Its possible that they are Mint marked..? I was only able to find this on the net so not sure what to look out for on mine....

  "Guineas were also struck in 1745 with the LIMA mark under the king’s head. The mark relates to the area where the gold was originally mined in Peru, and there have been several theories..."