Short croos

[craigy]

my first full one, i have it down as Richard I the museum people said 4b john when it went of to be recorded     , Reinavd on cant 

Edited July 8, 2017 by craigy

[Ukstu]

I have the same one though mines 4a. I've always classed that degraded portrait with stubble as Richard. 

Edited July 9, 2017 by Ukstu

[craigy]

12 hours ago, Ukstu said:

I have the same one though mines 4a. I've always classed that degraded portrait with stubble as Richard. 

thats the class i gave it 4a,   not sure the finds liaison officer got it right, the amount of stunning cut halfs i've found on this particular field is unreal, always thought when a whole one turned up it would be just as stunning, was a bit disappointed tbh, still a nice coin though and happy to add to my collection 

 

[Ukstu]

The most recent book on the short cross coinage by Gerry Slevin marks 4b coins in Richards camp. My gut feeling when i saw it was the same , Richard immediately came to mind. I would personally mark it up as a Richard until someone can say otherwise with strong evidence. To me its a perfect example of a Richard coin , your very very lucky to find any Richards in good condition. Treasure it. 

Edited July 9, 2017 by Ukstu
Added image.

[craigy]

1 hour ago, Ukstu said:

The most recent book on the short cross coinage by Gerry Slevin marks 4b coins in Richards camp. My gut feeling when i saw it was the same , Richard immediately came to mind. I would personally mark it up as a Richard until someone can say otherwise with strong evidence. To me its a perfect example of a Richard coin , your very very lucky to find any Richards in good condition. Treasure it. 

1 hour ago, Ukstu said:

The most recent book on the short cross coinage by Gerry Slevin marks 4b coins in Richards camp. My gut feeling when i saw it was the same , Richard immediately came to mind. I would personally mark it up as a Richard until someone can say otherwise with strong evidence. To me its a perfect example of a Richard coin , your very very lucky to find any Richards in good condition. Treasure it. 

i have the north book i use along with spinks and the little paperback books by Christopher wren, not seen the book you mention, will have to look it up,  have so many books that i need a drawing room to keep them in, still need to get the henry III voided penny book by churchill - thomas and learn the new classifications, 

 

[Ukstu]

Same here. I've invested much money in numistimatic literature and books. The book i pictured and mentioned above is called shortcross legends its by Gerry Slevin. I got mine off amazon in 2015. Its still available there though its gone up slightly since i purchased my copy. 

I picked up the Churchill Thomas Brussels hoard book earlier in the year online for £30 pre owned. Its a good book though i haven't yet completed it fully. Its a definite must for anyone interested in Henry III Longcross coinage. 

[Matteo95]

books are the best investing for a numismatist , I didn't know the Slevin's book... I personally think also that the Stewartby's work on english medieval coins is a great book.

[Ukstu]

I don't own the Stewertby book as yet. I'll buy it once i find it priced up at a decent figure. Maybe a second hand copy. Gerry Slevin has a book on the Dublin mint of Henry III. It covers the Irish Long cross coins under Henry. 

Getting back to your coin , i can see why the flo attributed it as 4b. The X in Rex does look blocky like the 4b ones also the S is blunded. My 4a X is quite thin and wirey.

I've not heard anyone put 4b coins in Johns corner before. I think he's probably made a mistake and got slighty confused. 

Edited July 11, 2017 by Ukstu

[Guest Unidentifiable]

Can anyone please help me identify this coin? I'm unsure of date and mint. I'm no expert on coins but have recently started a collection and still building up my knowledge.

[HistoricCoinage]

Hard to tell from images, but looks like an Edward IV penny. Are you able to upload better quality photos?

[craigy]

looks to be london mint