The market is absolutely saturated with piedforts and proofs. Aesthetically, most of them are vanilla coins. Have very little going for them. Even in 25 years there will be so many in pristine condition that demand won't be high enough. You can go to auctions now and there are 30-50 of the damn things in a box. Might as well invest in a nice Edward VII crown and admire it's beauty at the same time. r.e Spinks - i think it's poor practice. Like other auction houses who take in gold and reserve the price at scrap value, BV + 20% - surely that madness has to end. Don't see it as much as i did three or four years ago though.