Edward 1 Penny......? London.

[Edward 1 Penny......? London.]

Pot hook N and star on breast a clear class London 9b 

[Roman?]

4 hours ago, Citizen H said:

well I never..........its pretty done with....I'm relieved that there seems to be only one that snuck in. 

would this be  a James 1st Stuart Hammered Copper Farthing?  

Or Charles I, you’ll have to take a closer look at the legends under a good light 👍

[Roman?]

A Stuart copper farthing!

[Henry III Long & Short Cross, 1 Penny's]

Yes, the Short Cross is Henry III class 7 and the moneyer is indeed TERRI of London.

The long cross is class 3 and Canterbury (O\|  CANT) 

 

[Elizabeth, 1578 & 1582]

Don’t forget your scales, they’re a cheap and very worthy item too! You could always check out Rob’s website to see if he has any on there, he sells most things? 👍 https://rpcoins.co.uk/
 

[Elizabeth, 1578 & 1582]

No, I’m talking about this link as being your SECOND Elizabeth threefarthings! You were saying you only had ONE, I was merely pointing out that you have TWO!

 

[Elizabeth, 1578 & 1582]

You have 2 threefarthings 

 

[Elizabeth, 1578 & 1582]

4 hours ago, Citizen H said:

Aha...........phew! this can now be put into the hammered coins file that are now identified..... My 1st Threefathings (3/4 of a Penny)

 The 1561-1565 Threefarthings - Elizabeth I

Hammered Silver Threefarthing coin (three-quarters of a penny) of Queen Elizabeth I, minted about 1561-1565 (the coin is dated but digits are worn). Diameter 13mm and weighs 0.345g. Third or fourth issues. Minted at the Tower (London) mint. SCBC: 2571. North: 2002.

Although an unual denomination, the Threefarthing coin is not too difficult to find and often well less than £200. Specimens are usually quite poor quality and can show signs of clipping. A milled version was minted in 1563, but only three are known and are very expensive.

The design is very similar to the threehalfpence coin, which is just 2mm larger in diameter.

The Obverse shows a portrait of Queen Elizabeth I facing left, wearing a ruff and embroidered dress. Rose behind to right. Mint mark is a pheon (a downward pointing arrow). Legend is "E D G ROSA SINE SPINA". meaning Elizabeth by the grace of God, a rose without a thorn.

Edge is plain.

The Reverse shows a quartered coat-of-arms with a cross fourchee on top; beaded inner circle aith legend "CIVITAS LONDON" and the pheon mint mark.

.........Well that was a easy learning curve!!!!!!!  😕 and truly Many Many thanks for all the time involved sorting out the mystery's. "H"  

It’s dated 1578 over 1575 as mentioned earlier in the post.

[Elizabeth, 1578 & 1582]

No yours is a threefarthings, much smaller than a threehalfpence. If you look at the halfpenny and consider whether you could squeeze three of them into the coin pictured alongside it, that should help you understand the scale of things.

[Elizabeth, 1578 & 1582]

6 hours ago, Citizen H said:

ah, Stuart.....

the coin 1½ Pence - Elizabeth I 3rd and 4th issue; and related information I got off Numista,

the coin is approximately 15mm across although its buckled.... this is why I though its  1½ Pence.......

just to clarify... what is the coin ? my head reads it is now a 3 half pence? I try to look this up but found nothing... 

Many many thanks for all the help, "H"

Apologies, an evening out with friends!

The most important detail in this are the busts, the threehalfpence was only ever issued with one bust (3G the bust you shared off the numis site).

Size isn’t always the best tool for identifying these tiny coins, as the flans can spread with some considerable variance, depending on how heavily they’re struck. You need to buy yourself a set of scales because, in the absence of knowing the bust types, they’ll quickly give the game away on grounds of weight alone.

[Elizabeth, 1578 & 1582]

Just realised the original post says 1 1/2 pence (threehalfpence), so not spot-on after all!

[Elizabeth, 1578 & 1582]

You are spot on with the threefarthings…it is, however, a reverse die that’s believed to be 8 over 5, so an overdate.

The halfpenny is 100% genuine and is, in my opinion, the best coin you’ve shared on this forum so far…I’d give you £100 right now for that coin (which means you could probably get £130 if you sat on it). Nice coin!

[Elizabeth 1 Six Pence 1562 (Milled not Hammered)]

12 hours ago, Paddy said:

Yes @Coinery I hadn't really paid much attention to the variety before, but mine I believe is S2596 with the smaller rose and the elaborately decorated dress. The OP is S2594 I think with the larger rose and the plain dress. The latter is slightly scarcer.

@Citizen H I see no problems with yours being fake. If you look at the form of the 5 in the date, it is the same on both examples. I don't know if it is still the case, but the main giveaway for the fakes was a blundered terminal to the cross fourchee. This was discussed somewhere on this forum at least 5 years ago.

https://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/12367-light-1562-sixpence/

[Elizabeth 1 Six Pence 1562 (Milled not Hammered)]

I’d say yours is genuine, H…and yours is a different bust, Paddy, not the same Spink number as the OP  

[1865 and 1867 Victorian Pennies]

My ‘67, which is an awful picture, cost me £300 as a further guide.

[1865 and 1867 Victorian Pennies]

[1865 and 1867 Victorian Pennies]

I picked up a ‘67 a couple of years ago, one of my 4 Victorian pennies and, sorry to say, not for sale.

Not a great picture unfortunately, but I’m curious, are they harder to come by? Why ‘65 & ‘67?

[1840 Shilling - Fake]

Very convincing tone, though!

[Edward I Penny???]

3 hours ago, jacobvs said:

Wow, that's a good one!! Very many thanks Coinery. 

I'm going to record it on the PAS database. How would you like me to acknowledge you for the ID? 

Best regards

James

It’s fine, James, just mark me anon if you have to put anything  

[Russians]

That picture…what a gift! Well done for seeing it through, Rob!

[Edward I Penny???]

A bit like this one…this is a 7a

 

[Edward I Penny???]

Looks like an Edward I Class 7 penny with rose on the breast to me! Most likely 7a, looking at the crown and face, a rarer class of the Edward series.

[George VI Davissons]

34 minutes ago, VickySilver said:

Yes I saw those - he has previously been possibly a bit conservative but believe that to be a family business. Is there now another hand involved with the grading and cataloguing?

You may be right, something’s definitely adrift? The starting prices are crazy-high too, I can’t even begin to imagine them selling.

[Which rulers of England did not have coins issued during their reign ?]

I really like the idea of a monarch run!

[Which rulers of England did not have coins issued during their reign ?]

Apparently the gold angels are distinguishable, following die sequencing, which I guess could be possible with the silver coinage, too? There can’t have been too many dies?

I’d be curious to know, though, how even when discovering that one dies comes before another, for an entire series, you can say the hammer fell on a particular flan after the death of a king?