Bronze & Copper Collector

as requested

as requested.....

I only know of 2 (possibly 3) that have changed hands in the last few years, and about 5 in major collections. plus the one that started this thread......... even if you double that number that still only amounts to 18....... Still EXTREMELY RARE, and even more so because it is RECOGNIZED and DESIREABLE......

Sorry, I couldn't edit my response above to add the following...... The 5 examples that I have had at one time or another, as well as the few others that I have seen, all had this trait as well.....

PS: In reference to the N/Z, In adddition to the N/Z and the recut O in one, I think they all also have a recut or doubled A in Victoria on the obverse...

Well said... A RARITY is RARE.. regardless of its condition..... and they are always CLASSIC, IDENTIFIABLE, and in DEMAND......

No problem, we all learn from one another......

Nice coins Bob & Custard.... Both a bit better than mine..... Both also displaying the first 1 over 1 in the date........ A characteristic that I've noticed on ALL the specimens that I have seen so far.....

I've seen or owned about 5 off them, although this is among the nicest that I've seen, and much nicer than the one in my collection.... NICE FIND.... Let me know if you want to part with it.....

Chris... were you addressing me regarding the pics????? Also, I'm not bothering with recut lettering on the 1860 and 1861 coins... though I can send you some to include as example in your book.... certainly not worth an entry for pricing purposes........ Let me know and I will email you........ Not sure what else I have, but I'll check... I knew I had these handy though....

A comparison of 4 different types of 1889/8 half pennies......

1889 ULTRA WIDE date GOUBY X Compare to narrow date and normal wide date....

1861 F-276 first 1 over 1

1862/1 penny SATIN 38A for those that have never seen one.....

F-274 with missing Colon Dots after F:D:

1946 Gouby B (DOT) with DIE BREAK projecting from the dot....

1860 F-16 witha raised dot between the ribbons

F-13 with missing colon dot after F:D:

1862 half penny with Die letter A to RIGHT of light house.....

1860 F-10 with a "flying ship"... Probably from polished dies which created a larger gap betweent he ship and the sea... also with an recut D on the obverse... see previous post.....

1860 F-10 with a "flying ship"... Probably from polished dies which created a larger gap betweent he ship and the sea... also with an recut D on the obverse... see next post.....

1854 doubled date penny

1854/4 penny

I've had it happen a few times with me.... The MOST BLATANT being an 1862 shilling, that was at best an EF by US grading standards AND CLEANED!!!!!!! It would probably be factored out as a VF (US).... It was sold by me for about $65 and within a weeks time, it was listed by a British seller as UNC, using MY PICTURES, and ended up selling for over 175 POUNDS (about $325 at that time......) I don't know who I was more annoyed at.. the seller for his boldfaced misgrading, or the foolishness (I'm being nice) of the bidders, who took the word of the seller, and not the truthfullness of the images themselves, where the wear was quite evident, although the coin was "bright and shiny"....... P.T. Barnum was right, "there's a fool born every minute; and two to take him" I still buy (and occasionally sell my duplicates) on ebay, but I try to know who I am buying from, and when I do buy, it is because of something particular that has caught my atttention........

Undoubtedly a post mint production gold plating.... VERY COMMONLY done to Kennedy Halves, and Ike Dollars to create novelty items.... Many advertisments for them appeared in the 70's and 80's, and still some today......... there is no premium involved, especially to collectors, except possibly a devaluation in value to the purist..... Gary