Thanks guys , first chance to reply since a busy xmas and new year. Hope yours was as good as mine. Managed to get out detecting the other day, didnt find much in the way of anything too old but did find two vicky pennys in the same hole one a 1860 and the other 1861, condition none too good thou, difficult to see if they are rarities , confused with obverse and reverse types. Is there an easy way?