1826 Proof Farthings

[1826 Proof Farthings]

I'll buy 1826 copper proofs at a 15% discount to bronzed proofs all day long - that is assuming I can find one.

[1826 Proof Farthings]

7 hours ago, Menger said:

Not specifically addressing your question, but somewhat related: I would persevere with NGC. I did and while it took a few follow ups they revisited their categorization of many 1847/8 groats (including mine) v 1848/7 groats, to make the former rarer than the latter.  At about the same time they obliterated their 1847 and 1848 3d categories (relegating these wholesale to Maundy - to my great satisfaction) and seemingly they similarly thinned out their 1841 and 1846 3d populations. There seemed to be a recognition that the British population reports need work. 

Is this not more likely to be a case of both being 8/7, but in the case of 7/8 they didn't punch the new digit deep enough? To use an example to support this theory, the 1817 GEOR/E shilling has the E in the highest relief, but it is inconceivable that someone said 'hey, this reads GEOR - better change it to an E'. Yes, the wrong digit can be entered, but recycling old dies is the more likely option. The only reason for calling it 7/8 would be to differentiate between the dies. 

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Just speculation, but I would think the bronzed were all made for the boxed sets, with a small number of singles made in copper. 

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34 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said:

Obviously created by a Spinal Tap fan.

 

(By the way, the M40 and the M42 merge NORTH East of Brum - the SE is the merge of M42 & M5.)

No they don't. M42 & M5 is a bit west of south. M40 & M42 is a bit east of south. M6 Toll and M42 diverge north-east of Brum.

As for the original question - I haven't thought about it before, but not a multiple of ten is a good idea. It can't be a conversion from 18kph, as that's equally odd,

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May 9th Victory Day memorial in Uralsk, Kazakhstan. Someone has a sense of humour (and topical relevance)

 

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1 hour ago, TomGoodheart said:

That's lovely Rob! (Unlike the really shit copy on ebay!)

Not mine. I don't possess a single medal. Just had it in the image database, but given the dies are the same it clearly shows the ebay listing to be a cast copy. Reverse detail is sh*te.

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I only have an image of a gold example, but I'm certain I wouldn't buy the 'silver' example listed. It's an in your face copy. 

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Looks cast to me - not silver

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I often wonder how many people actually collect these. TBH I was surprised that 3 people in this thread are interested given the near total lack of interest shown by visitors to the table. I've had a couple pieces in there for 7 or 8 years that nobody has looked at and those that sold off the site all went abroad.

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A half decent band.  Land of Grey and Pink is album I revisit regularly.

 

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Fullarton proof halfpenny in silver on a thin flan by John Milton. An original, not a restrike.

 

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A Moore pattern penny, Peck 2117. ex Carter, Peck, Magnay & Adams.

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An 1883 Maundy set

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Haven't posted anything here for a few years, so I'll add a few. 

Like Sword, I also added a JH 3d. Plus an 1834 threehalfpence.

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6 hours ago, Mr T said:

Is the 1839 proof sixpence with obverse 6 mentioned in any books?

ESC 3249 (1738). The last one I noticed went through Heritage in the last 5 years. Can't remember the date though.

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10 minutes ago, david.bordeaux said:

And another in Noonan's sale on 10 May, Lot 103. But I'm not entirely convinced that these 1864 florins (all with obverse die no. 64) are fakes. Apart from the strange "n" in tenth, they look absolutely spot on (unless I'm missing something). Could they simply be genuine coins with an error on the reverse die that was paired with obverse die no. 64?

Look at it a different way. It's either the 2021 coin that has been dipped, or what are the odds on the two dozen identical scratches, nicks, lumps etc appearing on two coins.

Attached is an image from when this was discussed previously with the copy similarities highlighted. The resolution isn't wonderful, but the only matching item on the reverse appears to be the small mark on the right edge of the bottom shield. The obverse has numerous matching marks including behind the head, including the bigger scratches in the field. I'm still suspicious. 

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The woman was on local tv tonight and it transpires travelled all the way from Cumbria to Sheffield to protest. Interesting carbon footprint, and I bet she wasn't wind powered.

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I think the 1839 sets were produced on demand up to the mint refurbishment in 1882, because it's difficult to find another reason for the 1839 sixpence reverse combined with the final young head obverse which wasn't introduced until 1880. These are rare. It might also explain the minimal number of inverted die axis 1839 proof halfpennies (P1523*) and farthings (P1557) known. My 1839/41 halfpenny is inverted, but I don't know anyone with another inverted 1839 halfpenny to see if that is also 1839/41. Can anyone chip in here?

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I hope they cycled to the protest.

[Roddy catalogue info required for Spring 2002]

A couple more required from Richardson's Spring 2002 FPL -- items 54 & 55 are also Chester halfcrowns, so a scan of all from this mint would be good. TIA.

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There are a few that would be acceptable. And an awful lot that aren't.

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You have to be careful in cross checking as occasionally the image is compressed on one axis. I illustrated it using the consensus fit from the majority.

I'm just doing the usual thing of finding all examples so that I know what the competition is when it comes to finding something to tick the 'sword and 3 gerbs' box. They aren't rare, as I have 35 listed so far of both varieties (HIR & HIB/R), with a few more without corroborative images which may or may not be on the list.

Bull's all at sea sometimes, with 3 HIRs listed being HIB/R, 2 HIBs are HIRs and several references are duplicates of the same coin. That's why it is important to proof read and verify the written word.

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I've already got that info, with this coin's provenance to date as

10.B R Noble 686, Gl 11/12/1975 P      SCA 157, 15/11/2001, lot 519 P      Rasmussen FPL 2/212, 2002 P      Richardson FPL Spring 2004/46 P      DNW 63, lot 326, 7/10/2004 P 13.74g      M Sherman 320, DNW 68, 12/12/2005 P      SNC 4/2006, HS2317 P

I'm currently working through Bull to verify the provenances listed, as there are plenty of duplicate listings in different types or wrongly assigned errors. Bull gives this one as being on Roddy Richardson's list Spring 2002 item53 @ £1550, but I'm missing that FPL in the library. All the other sales are verified with images.

The second coin I am trying to match is from the Sovereign FPL (Ilsley) for Nov. 2000, item 097 (£500). Again, a gap in the library. At £500 I suspect it's going to be pretty grotty, but there are a few candidates in the list already, pictured in the first post.